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Human Genome is the evidence
#21
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
I think Arty is devolving into one of those xtian cabbages previously mentioned.

Sorry, Chas.
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#22
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: To believe that this level of apparent design happened either randomly or by chance is a mathematical equation of probability with more zeros than I care to type (plus I don't know what the word is for numbers which are thousands of trillions!).

We're here; therefore the probability is 1.0

You can tack on as many zeros as you like, it won't make a fuck.
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#23
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
The human genome is proof of God and let us guess, your particular god out of the hundreds of thousands claimed in human history. You are an idiot. How about this? How about humans have always made up gods because they like having a sugar pill to ignore their own finite nature?

Any moron can look at a domestic house cat and a tiger and know that they are related. DNA and evolution are not Allah based, or Vishnu based, or Thor based OR JESUS based. A hurricane does not need the ocean god Poseidon to cause it. Neither does biological evolution or the universe for that matter.

Stephen Hawkins "A god is not required".
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#24
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: There is evidence for design...


The unraveling of the Human Genome Code was announced to the world as the discovery of the language of the Creator by then President, Bill Clinton. What scientists discovered was an extremely sophisticated genetic language necessary for even the simplest life forms to exist. To believe that this level of apparent design happened either randomly or by chance is a mathematical equation of probability with more zeros than I care to type (plus I don't know what the word is for numbers which are thousands of trillions!).


make your bets.. odds against you..

You do realize that Francis Collns, evangelical Christian and founder of the Human Genome Project has openly stated it is genetically impossible for the Adam & Eve story to be true, correct?

And if that's true, there goes original sin.

Without original sin, no messiah.

No messiah, no Christianity. Your argument has already been debunked by the Christians studying the genetics you're invoking.

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#25
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: if there's no info. then how does the chemical process advance.

if you have a platoon in position ,someone has to issue an order;don't you think. by some kind of language ,no?


Who cares what a politician says about a science he has no clue about.

DNA is not a language. DNA is used to make mRNA which in turn makes proteins. That's it.

There is no information being communicated. It is a chemical process.




Humans do not detect design by complexity, the odds of it occuring or appearance. We detect design by contrasting it to things that occur naturally.

As far as your claim about the odds, when one is dealt a bridge hand of thirteen cards, the probability of being dealt that particular hand is less than one in 635 billion. Yet, it would be absurd for someone to be dealt a hand, examine it carefully, and exclaim, “wow, the odds against getting these exact cards are 635 billion to 1. I couldn’t possibly have been dealt this hand by chance. There must have been supernatural intervention.

Is that another allusion to Pascal's Wager at the end there?

YOU FUCKING MORON, evolution is not by "design". Humans can choke on food because we share the same eating hole we breath with, whales and dolphins do not have that problem. Cockroaches outnumber humans as do bacteria as well. Eagles have better eyesight than humans. And as the late Christopher Hitchens put it about our private parts " What kind of design is it to put an entertainment center in the middle of a sewage system?"

50 million deaths worldwide per year from everything, in birth, from old age, disease, famine, crime and war. That is a half billion in a decade, 1 billion people every 20 years DIE.

You want to cop out to "design". How about childhood cancer? Is that "designed"? Downs Syndrome? Is that "designed"? Is ecoli designed?

How about you simply can't stand the thought of being finite so you swallow a super hero story to coddle your own insecurities.
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#26
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 7:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

YOU FUCKING MORON, evolution is not by "design". Humans can choke on food because we share the same eating hole we breath with, whales and dolphins do not have that problem. Cockroaches outnumber humans as do bacteria as well. Eagles have better eyesight than humans. And as the late Christopher Hitchens put it about our private parts " What kind of design is it to put an entertainment center in the middle of a sewage system?"

50 million deaths worldwide per year from everything, in birth, from old age, disease, famine, crime and war. That is a half billion in a decade, 1 billion people every 20 years DIE.

You want to cop out to "design". How about childhood cancer? Is that "designed"? Downs Syndrome? Is that "designed"? Is ecoli designed?

How about you simply can't stand the thought of being finite so you swallow a super hero story to coddle your own insecurities.

Design is design, your coffin will have a design .. it was designed that way .. but who designed it..

Will your coffin design itself ? So why would anything else . who designed the air you breath?

It evolved .. but it still has a design. it still serves a purpose.

Sickness can be remedied .. design doesn't have to be perfect.
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#27
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 7:33 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 7:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: YOU FUCKING MORON, evolution is not by "design". Humans can choke on food because we share the same eating hole we breath with, whales and dolphins do not have that problem. Cockroaches outnumber humans as do bacteria as well. Eagles have better eyesight than humans. And as the late Christopher Hitchens put it about our private parts " What kind of design is it to put an entertainment center in the middle of a sewage system?"

50 million deaths worldwide per year from everything, in birth, from old age, disease, famine, crime and war. That is a half billion in a decade, 1 billion people every 20 years DIE.

You want to cop out to "design". How about childhood cancer? Is that "designed"? Downs Syndrome? Is that "designed"? Is ecoli designed?

How about you simply can't stand the thought of being finite so you swallow a super hero story to coddle your own insecurities.

Design is design, your coffin will have a design .. it was designed that way .. but who designed it..

Will your coffin design itself ? So why would anything else . who designed the air you breath?

It evolved .. but it still has a design. it still serves a purpose.

Sickness can be remedied .. design doesn't have to be perfect.

If you believe you were designed imperfectly by a perfect designer, your argument is invalid.
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#28
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
(May 31, 2014 at 6:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: if that were true ,then there would be no order to any living creature. in fact life itself would be non existent.

This is an unsupported assertion.

You need to provide demonstrable, falsifiable evidence to back it up.

And, no, pointing at reality and claiming it is designed is not supporting your assertion, it is the fallacy of affirming the consequent.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#29
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
No asshole, I am donating my body to science.

Now try to get this through you childish kaleidoscope fictional sky hero soaked pea brain. You are no different in your flawed logic than any other human with a pet god claim now or in the past. None of you want to consider a "what" because none of you understand that it is merely in your head and human projection of their own desires on the world around them. The word for that is "anthropomorphism".

What caused humans to think volcanos were gods, what caused the Egyptians to falsely think the sun was a god, is the same stupid fucking logic you fall for in believing the god you want to be true. WISHFUL THINKING.

There is no such thing as an invisible cognition with magical super powers. Not yours not any. God claims are merely the products of human imagination.
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#30
RE: Human Genome is the evidence
On the upside, Artur does make Godschild look positively rational by comparison.
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