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Let's Just Say...
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(June 11, 2014 at 8:11 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: IF this abrahamic deity existed as quoted in the book of myths, he would have to beg for my forgiveness. Angry

The bastard would flay you alive before he even considered that.
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: . If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?
What does it mean to "receive him"?
Have the guy over for dinner? Sure, why not? I could have a little chat with him about methodology, psychology, astronomy, sociology and a few other details that would rub the back of my head the wrong way, if that hypothetical was to become real.
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#33
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(June 11, 2014 at 8:28 pm)pocaracas Wrote: What does it mean to "receive him"?

Something like this I think;

*Warning: the following spoiler contains adult themes, procede if you have a sense of fucking humor. Meaning not you Rev.*


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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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#34
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(June 11, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 6:56 pm)whateverist Wrote: I think I would prefer to just go on nonchalantly ignoring the whole silly choice until such time as your hypothetical becomes manifest. I really can't conceive of a being as capable as you describe who would be as petty and as obsessed with us as you imagine. Cross that bridge if and when we get there.

A couple things to consider:
- God created, you nor I didn't, He created the rules, He graciously allows us to enjoy existence and His creation or so you say .. with no support whatsoever
- Who are we to judge Him? As smart as we think we are for any way can possible compare His vast understand vs. ours is absurd.Still another assertion that is as absurd as it is unsupported
- Why do you blame God when He created man with a free will to chose his own fate and the results of his own decision. And don't say well if God knew ahead of time yadda yadda yadda. No one can possibly rationalize everything nor understand fully God's Will.But I don't judge or in any other way interact with this figment of your imagination. 'He' just doesn't matter.
- If God gave you a chance to be forgiven that doesn't cost you anything other than to accept it, wouldn't it be silly to refuse such a gift. The only part of the universe to be in apart from God is the very place you blame God that He will send you to. However, you are choosing it by your pride and stubbornness.You must have me mixed up with someone else. I don't blame anyone's imaginary friend for anything. That would be absurd.

What a fuss you make about nothing at all.
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(June 11, 2014 at 10:49 am)Starvald Demelain Wrote: If, hypothetically, your god turned out to be real and he was represented accurately in your Bible? Sure, if he were to present himself and leave no doubt that he was real I'd have to accept that. Would I worship him? Fuck no. I'd take hell over being next to that capricious, bloodthirsty cunt for eternity. Evidently your god isn't all that impressive up close, seeing as his best Archangel and 30% of his host decided to tell him to eat shit.

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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#36
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(June 11, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Who are we to judge Him?

I'll tell you exactly who we are to judge it. Living, breathing, thinking beings with better morality than any that sick fucking monster has ever been portrayed as showing.

If you sincerely believe that we don't have the moral right to judge that diseased pile of monkey shit that you call a god then you're even more morally bankrupt than it is.

Fuck you, fuck jebus, fuck the holey spirit, fuck your gawd and the horse that rode you all!

(June 11, 2014 at 8:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Let's just say I'm moving this thread where it belongs.

The latrine pit?!? Angel
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#37
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(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

What the fuck sort of stupid question is that? You are basically saying this:

"Lets just say that I'm right and you are wrong. Would I then be right?"

Good thing you are wrong, dumbass.
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#38
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some dude (I'm too lazy to check who Wrote:[b]better morality[/i]
I love it when people mess up bbcode.

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I would because hell sounds scary. Do you want me to lie?

Too bad hell isn't real...
Walk the plank!
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#39
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(June 10, 2014 at 11:56 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

I would have to believe.

I wouldn't worship the monster of the Old Testament.

He may of been dealing with evil monsters of men, but He was incredibly patient and merciful.

(June 10, 2014 at 11:58 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: This particular hypothetical annoys me. What do you get out of an answer to this question, Rev? Why ask?

Would like to see where you stand if you really believed He existed.

(June 11, 2014 at 12:49 am)vorlon13 Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

The 'one' described in the Bible ???

According to the Lutherans ? Eastern Orthodox ? Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints ? United Brethren ? Nazarene ? Gibsonites ? Church of Glad Tidings ? Church of God in Christ ? African Episcopal ? Church of Scotland ? Church of the Lamb ? Hutterites ? Mennonites ? Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints ? Coptic Christians ? Southern Baptist ? Anabaptist ? Church of Christ ? Methodist ? Church of the Blessed ? Jehovah's Witness ?


Guess wrong and burn. For all of ETERNITY.

I assume the church you attend is coincidentally The One True Church.

Where in the Bible does it say that there are denominations? You are either a believer or not. Simple.

(June 11, 2014 at 12:57 am)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God
No. Why should I?

(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: and He is the one described in the Bible.
Why should I concede this point, even if I'm willing to concede the first (which I'm not)?

(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case.
Again, no. Unless you can demonstrate a reason why I should

(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ
Now you've introduce a new character. Do I have to abandon all credulity and accept this one as real too? No. For the same reasons.

(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: would you accept that and receive Him?
No. Not even if you could prove the sick, sadistic fuck described in the OT or it's bastard kid were real. They are not worthy of anything other than revulsion and loathing.

(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?
There is no offer being made. It's a threat. An ultimatum. "Serve/Love me or suffer for eternity. Fuck that and fuck anybody who thinks a monster that would make that ultimatum is a "just and loving" anything.

(June 11, 2014 at 12:31 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Regardless of how or what you would need for this to be your reality, perhaps an actual encounter with Yahweh may do it, what would you do with that?

Spit in it's all-mighty eye. If that old-testament beast is real, I'm fucked anyway. Might as well.

Of course, there is NO evidence that your all-mighty terrorist, monster god exists.

Do you wink at the great evil of men throughout history and hold contempt towards God?

(June 11, 2014 at 9:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

What the fuck sort of stupid question is that? You are basically saying this:

"Lets just say that I'm right and you are wrong. Would I then be right?"

Good thing you are wrong, dumbass.

Sir, no. I am asking if you actually believed in God, even the one of the Bible, what would you do with that?

(June 11, 2014 at 9:12 pm)Buccaneer Wrote:
some dude (I'm too lazy to check who Wrote:[b]better morality[/i]
I love it when people mess up bbcode.

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I would because hell sounds scary. Do you want me to lie?

Too bad hell isn't real...

I wish it wasn't either. I also wish cancer wasn't real either.

(June 11, 2014 at 1:08 am)BlackSwordsman Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

Let's assume that Hitler was God, knowing that he existed does that make you want to worship him if it meant spending eternity with him after you die?

Did Hitler die to save mankind?

(June 11, 2014 at 1:10 am)vorlon13 Wrote: "The one described in the Bible"

but, is that the cafeteria bible so widely used today where only the convenient verses apply to the 'believers' and ALL the verses apply to the pagans, heathens, sinners, queers, liberals, union members, and uppity women ??

not sure what you are saying

(June 11, 2014 at 1:17 am)Losty Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

I used to truly believe there was a god and he was the god of the bible. I "defiantly" rejected him a little over a year before I was brave enough to branch out and learn some science and accept that he wasn't real. So yea, been there done that, got the tshirt.

Seems like God's warning that there would be a great falling away at the end rings more true reading your post.

(June 11, 2014 at 3:01 am)max-greece Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

Its a depressing thought.

I'd accept he existed but he doesn't seem worthy of worship. After all, 30% of all the angels in heaven can't be wrong.....

Satan is pretty cunning considering he duped 1/3 of the angels and a vast majority of mankind.
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(June 11, 2014 at 9:12 pm)Buccaneer Wrote:
some dude (I'm too lazy to check who Wrote:[b]better morality[/i]
I love it when people mess up bbcode.

Yeah, that was me. Shit happens when you're typing in a hurry. Tongue
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