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Let's join the dots
June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm
Them 2 atoms in my skull have collided again.
I just want to know if I'm insane because there can only be one "logic"
All life on earth share a similar design of gene code.
Same players, just different combinations
Therefore in the primordial soup, nature would have played with almost infinite possibilities of variations of these and other chemicals/molecules.
Only one genetic structure made it this far
The others cannot create what we call living
Nature has never stopped trying till this day
Therefore, under the laws of Einsteins Universe as we know it, any life on any planet must have the same gene structure
We are living proof that life exists on "other" planets
Therefore there "are" other life forms who not only are compatible with our gene code, but with all of natures diversity, may even look like us
We also have to assume that intelligence is not explicitly unique us
Therefore as time is relative, there is just as much possibility that these living beings have been around less than us or more ....a lot more.
Therefore "ET's" do exist. We just haven't made contact with any.
Therefore there may logically be a "chance" that they have visited our planet in the past.
Could it be possible that they "kick started" life on earth to give nature a helping hand.
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 3:05 am
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(June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Could it be possible that they "kick started" life on earth to give nature a helping hand.
Certainly possible, but until evidence can be found to support it it's just another theory I guess.
Indeed, there's been some theories in the past that have posited this, many of which you're probably already aware of:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 3:09 am
The great thing about not being arrogant enough to think we have all the answers, is that we're open to science's new discoveries and theories.
Panspermia is one of my favourites, though I'm not sure it's the one I believe in.
But when you throw religious myths out the window, all kinds of possibilities are open to us!
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 3:12 am
(June 20, 2014 at 3:09 am)laikashuman Wrote: The great thing about not being arrogant enough to think we have all the answers, is that we're open to science's new discoveries and theories.
Panspermia is one of my favourites, though I'm not sure it's the one I believe in.
But when you throw religious myths out the window, all kinds of possibilities are open to us!
Agreed. Religious 'theories' don't actually give us answers. They just give us a conclusion with no further explanation. "Goddidit". End of story, nothing more to see here. Move along.
Panspermia is certainly a romantic idea, thinking that life here originated from half way across the galaxy and that life would be similar everywhere.
Opens up many more questions over whether,for example, DNA is the most efficient way of 'coding' life and whether it is ubiquitous?
I hope in my lifetime we may have some answers.
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June 20, 2014 at 4:40 am
Hopefully and in the name of science, in the near future, when we work out the technical details of creating life in a lab,
do we then also inherit the dubious title of "creator"? Something none of us need or want?
I find this paradoxical ...
Everything comes down to technical details, does it not? Unless we are missing one key element which we may never know,
(for the same reason which Einstein quotes in my sig)
Either way, creating something is one thing, writing stories about it and including your ideals of morality is a very human thing to do.
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 7:02 am
(June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm)ignoramus Wrote: We are living proof that life exists on "other" planets
Therefore there "are" other life forms who not only are compatible with our gene code, but with all of natures diversity, may even look like us.
If the other planet is about the same size as earth, they might look like us. But if it's larger or smaller, then the gravity is totally different and it affects the environment that the "life" has to evolve in. So then it may look totally different.
(June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Could it be possible that they "kick started" life on earth to give nature a helping hand.
It's certainly a possibility, but there's no decent proof of that.
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June 20, 2014 at 7:10 am
agree totally with both.
That's why I left the last one as a question, not a statement ... there is no base for that assumption... it may answer why we are here, but still doesn't touch on who created them.
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 7:47 am
Well, there's always Richard Dawkins' caveat, quote-mined so gloriously for Ben Stein's “Expelled“ failure: that even if life here began out there, and if that life began somewhere else etc, you can only push that bar so far back. At some point, you're still going to be faced with some form of Darwinian evolution; and you 'only' have thirteen thousand million years to play with.
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 8:01 am
(June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Them 2 atoms in my skull have collided again.
I just want to know if I'm insane because there can only be one "logic"
All life on earth share a similar design of gene code.
Same players, just different combinations
Therefore in the primordial soup, nature would have played with almost infinite possibilities of variations of these and other chemicals/molecules.
Only one genetic structure made it this far
The others cannot create what we call living
Nature has never stopped trying till this day
Therefore, under the laws of Einsteins Universe as we know it, any life on any planet must have the same gene structure
We are living proof that life exists on "other" planets
Therefore there "are" other life forms who not only are compatible with our gene code, but with all of natures diversity, may even look like us
We also have to assume that intelligence is not explicitly unique us
Therefore as time is relative, there is just as much possibility that these living beings have been around less than us or more ....a lot more.
Therefore "ET's" do exist. We just haven't made contact with any.
Therefore there may logically be a "chance" that they have visited our planet in the past.
Could it be possible that they "kick started" life on earth to give nature a helping hand.
Yes. Very possible. In fact I think it is funny that people think we are, not only at the top, but the only ones.
The DNA is the most important thing. not the body. silly religions.
In fact I say shoot shit into space. It has life and food. All we need to do is shield it. It would be a lot cheaper. and we can shoot it in every direction.
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RE: Let's join the dots
June 20, 2014 at 8:17 am
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(June 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Could it be possible that they "kick started" life on earth to give nature a helping hand.
I've always liked Thomas Gold's accidental panspermia theory. Where life on earth was seeded after aliens had a picnic on a desolate planet earth, forgot to pick up their litter and we evolved out of the microbes left behind.
I dont know why really. I think its mainly because I think it would be funny if one of the theists favourite strawman arguments turned out to be true and life on earth was indeed an accident. A sort of poetic justice, if you will.
One day I hope to see proof of this theory. 
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