Even among strict, fundamentalist 'believers' there is this overwhelming current of slacking, cafeteriaism, cherry picking and selective ignorance of inconvenient scripture, both profound and subtle, that I might wonder why the OP doesn't direct a similar question to his brethren wondering why THEIR belief isn't of the Literal, Inerrant, Strict and Total variety instead of posting here.
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Reasons for belief
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In my experience, it's rare that anybody ever acknowledges losing a debate. Instead, both sides harbor a well nurtured suspicion that they are ultimately correct, regardless of how well or poorly they fared.
![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg)  (June 22, 2014 at 1:50 pm)rasetsu Wrote: In my experience, it's rare that anybody ever acknowledges losing a debate. Instead, both sides harbor a well nurtured suspicion that they are ultimately correct, regardless of how well or poorly they fared. This! That's usually the point the name calling starts.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code 
Beliefe in a lack of belief makes sense because you believe your lack of belief is reasonable. But this is a non-important point anyway. Boru, it seems to me, that if atheism is held because of no evidence than in that moment they loose that debate they would in order to stay consistent, convert to theism. Chad, it would be important to believe or not believe in deism for any other reason that it is virtues to hold on to true beliefs.
Some here have given pretty tough guidelines for a theistic argument. Inductive reasoning or argument to the best explanation anyone?  RE: Reasons for belief
June 22, 2014 at 1:57 pm
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Im not an atheist. I just think your god is a useless powerless dickless angry unfair unjust self-absorbed blood-thirsty unreasonable grudge-holding bigotted elitist selfish arrogant piece of holy fucking shit douche bag biggest sack of shit that mankind ever dreamed up.
He is unworthy of my consideration, let alone my worship. Hell, just getting him to show up would be a miracle he could add to his list. ![[Image: Evolution.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk619%2Fjcincain%2FPublic%2FEvolution.png)
Cinjin, so you find deism to be true? He is just an asshole?
 (June 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Arthur123 Wrote: Good afternoon, I was genuinely curious to hear from you guys what reason(s) you have for believing in atheism or agnosticism. This is not supposed to be an exhaustive thread but rather which arguments you find effective and compelling and perhaps the circumstances that ultimately lead to your conclusion. Please don't respond (though I grant you have every right to do so) religion is dumb only dummies believe in that. Im more interested in a civil explanation of the specifics of your reasoning and foundation for your beliefs. All theistic ideas lack evidence. I have never been a believer and have seen nothing approaching a good reason to start. The more I learn of theism the more convinced I am that all theistic beliefs should be consigned to the dustbin of history. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Lol, 'you believe your lack of belief is true'?
Don't you see the problem with that? What if you do believe that you believe that your lack of belief is true You do believe that you believe that you believe that your lack of belief is true You do believe that you believe that you believe that you believe that your lack of belief is true. Found the problem yet Arthur?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (June 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Arthur123 Wrote: Good afternoon, I was genuinely curious to hear from you guys what reason(s) you have for believing in atheism or agnosticism. This is not supposed to be an exhaustive thread but rather which arguments you find effective and compelling and perhaps the circumstances that ultimately lead to your conclusion. Please don't respond (though I grant you have every right to do so) religion is dumb only dummies believe in that. Im more interested in a civil explanation of the specifics of your reasoning and foundation for your beliefs. The same reason why I "believe" in the notion that spaghetti monster does not exist, in-spite of abundance of personal testimonials of revelation from his noodliness. |
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