Russell Brand destroys Fox News

[Elskidor]

I don't think extremely bias pundits should be allowed to report the news at all. The impact they have is very dangerous, and causes nothing but chaos, confusion and misguided hate.

[Minimalist]

A Tulsa newspaper seems to regard the issue in much the same way as Maddow.

http://m.tulsaworld.com/news/government/...l?mode=jqm

The bill says its intent is to assure that "customers with distributed generation" are not "subsidized by customers in the same class of service who do not have distributed generation."

The subsidy referred to is access to the power grid without paying the full cost of that access.

Some, though, think the bill is a pre-emptive strike by the utilities against a small but burgeoning alternative energy industry.

What a bill's sponsors claim its intent is and what it actually is are two wildly differing things.

Especially when two flat out republibertarianeo-conazis like the Koch Brothers have their greasy, greedy, little mitts all over it.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sola...tml#page=1

Solar, once almost universally regarded as a virtuous, if perhaps over-hyped, energy alternative, has now grown big enough to have enemies.

The Koch brothers, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist and some of the nation's largest power companies have backed efforts in recent months to roll back state policies that favor green energy. The conservative luminaries have pushed campaigns in Kansas, North Carolina and Arizona, with the battle rapidly spreading to other states.

[DeistPaladin]

One side is worse than the other.

I know you probably know but just to be clear, I was being sarcastic.

Conservative playbook: When in trouble, just start chanting "both sides, both sides, both sides".

[Cyberman]

I've seen rants just as silly on MSNBC. Foxnews doesn't have an exclusive on stupidity.

BOTH SIDES!
BOTH SIDES!
BOTH SIDES!

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!!

(Wait - am I in the right thread?)

[Heywood]

A Tulsa newspaper seems to regard the issue in much the same way as Maddow.

http://m.tulsaworld.com/news/government/...l?mode=jqm

The subsidy referred to is access to the power grid without paying the full cost of that access.

Some, though, think the bill is a pre-emptive strike by the utilities against a small but burgeoning alternative energy industry.

What a bill's sponsors claim its intent is and what it actually is are two wildly differing things.

Especially when two flat out republibertarianeo-conazis like the Koch Brothers have their greasy, greedy, little mitts all over it.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sola...tml#page=1

Solar, once almost universally regarded as a virtuous, if perhaps over-hyped, energy alternative, has now grown big enough to have enemies.

The issue is this:

1) The electric grid cost money to maintain. People on solar connect to the grid but do not contribute to the cost to maintain it. Their cost of grid maintenance is subsidized by others.
2)Existing laws in the state require that electricity bought from private solar producers be purchased by utilities at retail rates. If you are in the business why should you be required to buy things at retail rates? In business you buy at wholesale and turn around and sell it at retail. That is how you make money to grow your business and service more people.

The intent of the law is an attempt to lessen/compensate for the subsidies given to private solar producers not tax the sun as that idiot Maddow suggested

Minimalist, you shouldn't let Rachel Maddow, or the LA Times, or the Tulsa World do your critical thinking for you. Those people/organization all have an agenda they are trying to further. Facts don't matter much to them.

Regarding the Koch brothers, they are consistent advocates against government subsidies even when they benefit from them. The Koch brothers receive millions of dollars in ethanol subsidies yet campaign against them. The Koch brothers don't have a problem with solar power. The have a problem with subsidizing solar power. The Koch brothers have a problem with all government subsidies. You have been spoon fed to hate the Koch brothers by people who don't want you to listen to their message.

Edit: I have un-hid all the text I have responded too.

[Cyberman]

Those people/organization all have an agenda they are trying to further. Facts don't matter much to them.

Quoted for irony.

(Also: See? This is how to quote correctly.)

[Heywood]

Those people/organization all have an agenda they are trying to further. Facts don't matter much to them.

Quoted for irony.

(Also: See? This is how to quote correctly.)

Foxnews has an agenda too. If you can't see that you are just as much as a moron if you don't see the agenda being pushed by other news outlets.

[Cyberman]

No, irony is when one person says something that applies to themselves just as much as someone else. Like - say - a theist commenting about a news outlet having an agenda at the expense of facts.

Also, in certain specific cases, the use of the word "moron".

[Heywood]

No, irony is when one person says something that applies to themselves just as much as someone else. Like - say - a theist commenting about a news outlet having an agenda at the expense of facts.

Also, in certain specific cases, the use of the word "moron".

All people should look at all news with a critical eye. If you just look at Foxnews with a critical eye....you are a moron.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't trust any media outlet. I view outlets with various editorial biases with the idea that I will find the truth somewhere in the middle of all the bullshit.