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You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
#41
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
If the right to die is restored unto us, then messy suicides can be avoided and a thing of the past.

And moros gets to work on-time. So its a win-win for everyone.

Also, those who want to die could sign up to the organ donor program or something?
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#42
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
(June 28, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But we can't prevent suicide. A determined person will find a way.
And I'm sure sleeping pill manufacturers will get a sudden windfall from the bay area.
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#43
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
(June 29, 2014 at 12:35 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: If the barrier makes one person reconsider, then it is worth it.

The only thing it will make them reconsider is their method of suicide. When desperation reaches the point that taking your life becomes a valid option, being prevented from doing so in just one manner will only make that person find another. A much more effective way of dealing with the problem would be to find ways to tackle the root causes of the overwhelming desperation that leads to suicide.

This net is just another example of how our approach to mental health in this country is misplaced.
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#44
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
(July 2, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(June 28, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But we can't prevent suicide. A determined person will find a way.
And I'm sure sleeping pill manufacturers will get a sudden windfall from the bay area.

Actually, suicides are sometimes deterred by it's just being difficult when they want to end it. Packaging pills in those little punch out sheets rather than bottles can sometimes prevent a suicide. I wouldn't prevent a determined person of course.
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#45
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
(July 2, 2014 at 11:38 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(July 2, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And I'm sure sleeping pill manufacturers will get a sudden windfall from the bay area.

Actually, suicides are sometimes deterred by it's just being difficult when they want to end it. Packaging pills in those little punch out sheets rather than bottles can sometimes prevent a suicide. I wouldn't prevent a determined person of course.

Of course, they're not all in blister packs. I have a bottle of Doxylamine tablets that are all loose in the bottle. And I'm not sure if blister packs would be a good deterrent for suicide. I once saw a video of a guy's actual suicide (it's on Snopes). He took the time to screw the cap back onto his bottle of Evian before he blew his brains out. If a suicidal man can take the time out to do something that requires finer motor skills and doesn't contribute to the goal of ending his life, I see no reason why blister packs should be a deterrent.
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#46
RE: You're not allowed to end it all. Ever.
(July 3, 2014 at 12:01 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(July 2, 2014 at 11:38 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Actually, suicides are sometimes deterred by it's just being difficult when they want to end it. Packaging pills in those little punch out sheets rather than bottles can sometimes prevent a suicide. I wouldn't prevent a determined person of course.

Of course, they're not all in blister packs. I have a bottle of Doxylamine tablets that are all loose in the bottle. And I'm not sure if blister packs would be a good deterrent for suicide. I once saw a video of a guy's actual suicide (it's on Snopes). He took the time to screw the cap back onto his bottle of Evian before he blew his brains out. If a suicidal man can take the time out to do something that requires finer motor skills and doesn't contribute to the goal of ending his life, I see no reason why blister packs should be a deterrent.

Quote:In September 1998, Britain changed the packaging for paracetamol, the active ingredient in Tylenol, to require blister packs for packages of 16 pills when sold over the counter in places like convenience stores, and for packages of 32 pills in pharmacies. The result: a study by Oxford University researchers showed that over the subsequent 11 or so years, suicide deaths from Tylenol overdoses declined by 43 percent, and a similar decline was found in accidental deaths from medication poisonings.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/201...-suicides/
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