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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm
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Might maybe possibly open the door to companies having the right to not insure subsequent spouses and maintaining insurance for the divorced (first) one.
I might rather like that, especially if only children from first spouse had coverage, and the second spouse's kid's coverage had to procured separately.
If there are enough complications and confusion from maintaining fidelity to all of christ's teachings (take THAT cafeteria christians!) it makes maintaining the fiction of religiosity all that much harder.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm
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Ok, so Hobby Lobby "won". Now my question is, what can we do to make them regret their win?
I'm thinking abortion clinic style protests, screaming at customers, telling them that they are worshiping Mammon, throwing (water-soluble) red paint on them. After all, the same SCOTUS that made this decision also determined that all of this is fair game in regards to abortion clinics.
Also, this should be under "Politics".
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Cite it as precedent in all manner of failings of the unsaved masses in denying services, coverage, housing, employment, etc.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm
(June 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Cite it as precedent in all manner of failings of the unsaved masses in denying services, coverage, housing, employment, etc.
No Chik-fil-a for you! You don't handle SNAKES !!!!!!!
Not quite understanding what you are getting at here, but the government isn't a "closely-held" private company.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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I think it is shameful. But then again, CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE, MY FRIEND.
(June 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: Ok, so Hobby Lobby "won". Now my question is, what can we do to make them regret their win?
I'm thinking abortion clinic style protests, screaming at customers, telling them that they are worshiping Mammon, throwing (water-soluble) red paint on them. After all, the same SCOTUS that made this decision also determined that all of this is fair game in regards to abortion clinics.
Also, this should be under "Politics".
Hey, I like shopping there. They got some dope ish.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:30 pm
I don't think it's a good precedent. The question is, where do we go from here? Does this open the flood gates?
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:34 pm
(June 30, 2014 at 1:30 pm)rasetsu Wrote: I don't think it's a good precedent. The question is, where do we go from here? Does this open the flood gates?
As far as I'm aware, it's a very narrow ruling, pertaining explicitly to the morning after after pill and IUD's. For now all companies must still cover condoms, 'the pill', etc. And Jehovah's Witness' owned companies still can't deny blood transfusions and the like. Not sure exactly what the repercusions will be, but it at least the court was very specific in its decision.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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(June 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: (June 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Cite it as precedent in all manner of failings of the unsaved masses in denying services, coverage, housing, employment, etc.
No Chik-fil-a for you! You don't handle SNAKES !!!!!!!
Not quite understanding what you are getting at here, but the government isn't a "closely-held" private company.
I don't think it will happen, but Vorlon13 is not that far off the mark. The Supreme Court said Hobby Lobby doesn't have to provide insurance coverage it would otherwise have to because its owners object to certain contraceptives on religious grounds. Suppose that next Catholic owned companies refused to insure the spouses of previously divorced employees on the grounds that according the Catholic teachings they aren't spouses and to pay for that would condone living in sin. There's a logical argument to be made under this ruling that they wouldn't have to. And then there's the question of whether Christians would have to let apartments to homosexuals, or unmarried persons of the opposite sex living together, and so on. Or if they could refuse to let to such people on religious grounds.
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
You mean they're making a special concession for one particular religious group but not all of the others? Oh for shame, we wouldn't play favorites like that would we?
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
I haven't had time to read it yet, but the whole opinion is on line here:
Burwell v Hobby Lobby
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