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Evolution Facts
RE: Evolution Facts
Luckie, you were religious. Tell us why Alex thinks the way he does.
Why is he desperately nit picking on the tree of life, like it's going to make any scrap of difference.
Get into his mind ...tells us how they think...
Is it lack of confidence not having the facts on your side...? Always on the back foot believing in something blindly?
What is the chip they have on their shoulder which forces them to login to an atheist forum and "come out" with their new revitalised belief!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 22, 2014 at 11:54 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: would be so easy to find a link to disprove that all your links were incorrect. They were full of lies. So I didn't post a link to disprove you, because that was my exact point! It won't matter to you! You will still believe on your little link because that's what you want to believe, it's your bible! The argument would be pointless! You are the one who doesn't get it! You don't care about my beliefs and I don't care about yours. It is not that I don't have proofs, it is just because i don't want to argue with you. But you keep trying to get something out of me dude

Evidenced based scientific inquiry > theological guess work and wishful thinking.

You're right, though, when you say we don't care about your beliefs. Truth is, neither does reality. So you can be wrong, and keep being wrong, and it won't make any difference to the evidence based discoveries we as a species make and continue to make.

Indeed, you don't have to care about our beliefs either. The result is the same; you'll still be wrong.

(July 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: I refuse. I could be putting other posts and links and then you will put another one and will go on forever. Proof of a intelligent designer is out there, just have to look for and use your common sense. Its called evolution theory for a reason. Its only a theory and what they claim to be proof are full of holes and lies.

It's a theory that explains a fact.

I know people with limited education in general scientific inquiry have trouble grasping that.

Please actually research what you're talking about before talking about them. Unless you don't care about how you come across to people on the internet which is entirely possible. But imagine yourself in a room full of strangers in RL and saying that. No doubt some of them would laugh and some would just have this look on their face:

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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: Its called evolution theory for a reason. Its only a theory ....
The exact second someone says "Only a theory" is the exact second you can dismiss what they say.

You don't know what a scientific theory is.
So go read a book first, then come back.
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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm)alpha male Wrote: Strange animals may have their own distinct nervous system.

Confusion reigns at the base of the animal family tree.

If you think this suggests that early animals started out simple and gradually evolved new features, and things like sponges branched off before they were added, you wouldn't be alone. Over the years, lots of researchers argued the same thing. But a recent genome sequence indicated that the oldest branch of the animal family tree that led to the comb jellies, with muscles, nerves, and tentacles, were an older branch than sponges. Now with a new paper on the comb jelly, researchers are starting to argue over what this actually tells us about the earliest animals.

(July 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm)alpha male Wrote: Cue the "But...but...the authors still believe in evolution" responses. Angel

But...but...that quote had nothing in it counter to evolution!

(July 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm)alexwenzel Wrote:
(July 16, 2014 at 2:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: Right, so if you know all this then you should have no problem going back to page five, reading my posts there where I respond to you and post sources that show that all of your claims are demonstrably wrong to such a degree that you've mislabelled basic concepts and said things don't exist when we have evidence that they do, and admit that you were wrong.

Or was the reason you stopped being an atheist that you decided honesty wasn't for you? Dodgy

I refuse. I could be putting other posts and links and then you will put another one and will go on forever. Proof of a intelligent designer is out there, just have to look for and use your common sense. Its called evolution theory for a reason. Its only a theory and what they claim to be proof are full of holes and lies.

Just to state this clearly: colloquially, the word 'theory' is roughly equivalent to the term 'educated guess'. In science, a theory is a well-confirmed explanation of something in nature constructed using the scientific method, that any scientist in the field can understand and provide evidence to support it or falsify it. Scientific theories are the most comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.

If the word 'theory' being used in biology is a problem for you, why don't you take on cell theory or germ theory? The obvious answer is that you don't have a religious objection to them being true.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Evolution Facts
Ignoramus, when it comes down to it, alex here has chosen to believe that he has a little book that is divinity inspired fact, and that 'in the end, scientists will see it was right'. And they will wail and moan and gnash their teeth, and god will ignore them whole simultaneously throwing hellfire stones at those lying scientists, and everyone will live happily ever after for eternity in hell (except precious Alex, of course, who kept faith in the book and gets a cookie for being such a good little parrot).
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm)alexwenzel Wrote:
(July 22, 2014 at 10:29 pm)Blackout Wrote: I'm betting you have no evidence b sides the bible and a silly version of Pascal's wager. If you looked for proof carefully, you wouldn't be a Christian

I have overwhelming amounts of proof for myself, and don't have to prove it to you. Im happy with what I know. Its a waste of time getting in an debate with you, it won't make a difference, because you have decided what YOU want to believe and you will make whatever effort necessary to keep believing what you want. Anything you read that pleases your sense is satisfactory to you. First go detox your brain to start using common sense... then you will find reality.

You say there's no point in arguing with us, yet here you are, arguing with us. You're basically telling us you're here to be pointless. Congratulations, thus far, you've been very successful at it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 10:19 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: You gave me this really long link to read to give me an example of a new species? Why don't you just mention a few in here? I read it thru and didn't see mentioning any new species.
Gotta love a theist who wears his ignorance like a badge. Easier to avoid that way.

(July 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: Im happy with what I know.
Ignorance is bliss.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 22, 2014 at 11:54 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: You don't care about my beliefs and I don't care about yours.

What the fuck are you doing here then dumbass?
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RE: Evolution Facts
(July 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: I have overwhelming amounts of proof for myself, and don't have to prove it to you.
Everyone does. It's when you try to prove it to others that you discover whether your self-proof is sufficient or if it's lacking. Why bother taking part in a discussion if your only contribution is to remind us that you don't want to step outside of your bubble?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Evolution Facts
(August 12, 2014 at 1:34 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(July 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: I have overwhelming amounts of proof for myself, and don't have to prove it to you.
Everyone does. It's when you try to prove it to others that you discover whether your self-proof is sufficient or if it's lacking. Why bother taking part in a discussion if your only contribution is to remind us that you don't want to step outside of your bubble?

Exactly.

Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson Wrote:The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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