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Evolution Facts
#21
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm)Lek Wrote: Evidence for an evolutionary process is obvious and plentiful, but of course, creating amino acids in a lab is far from creating a living creature. It also doesn't in any way rule out a creator. It may be true, but it's a lousy argument to use to try to deny the existence of God. By the way, I went to a catholic school for my first eight years and was taught evolution in science class. I guess if some kids are home schooled, they could have this kind of science hidden from them. But I believe they need to pass qualification testing in science to move on and graduate. I don't know of any schools that don't teach evolution.

I understand. At the same time though, if you literally see a clock's parts evolve into a clock one gear at a time through a process of trial and error-- and you had the finished product to refer to, and you had time capsules of the transitionary phases of past clock's progression into the complex machines that we use now (which we are still observing evolving to this day)--and the nuts and bolts and gears were following the same progression that you've been able to observe in already formed clocks--then would you still say that those gears and nuts and bolts wont eventually become a clock if they keep following the same pattern of formation based upon observed universal laws of physics??

(Bear with me if you please, I'm tired Tongue)

Lets say clocks represent a human body, kogs/gears/bolts represent the building blocks of the body, and the process of trial and error is evolution.

What's your opinion about the speciation proof I presented?

Lastly, I was in high school from 2001-2004. I remember a lot of hubub in the news about what to teach and not to teach in biology in Kansas schools. The only word I heard on evolution was that the courts mandated that that was the official version of things. To stay as far away out of controversy for fear of legal ramifications--the teacher got to the point that all we did in biology was cut open dead baby pigs and frogs and study mitosis and mitochondrial processes. Never heard a word on evolution or the fossil record. Genetics was condensed down to eye and hair color, genetic disease, and blood types. That's.. that's all I learned in biology.
I went on to Chemistry and physics from there. Admittedly I was private or homeschooled for all of middle school. But I have asked my friends from high school if they learned evolution in school before 9th grade and they said no. Anyone I know who hasn't been to college, have zero knowledge of evolution and are typically heavily biased against it.
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#22
RE: Evolution Facts
In before "But.... Kinds!"
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#23
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

That statement still holds true today.
Yeah about Darwin now that we are a boarding the subject. There is one thing that has been bothering me, and I was wondering if anyone can give me some info about that.

(July 12, 2014 at 7:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Darwin was a racist, so evolution can't be true'
Is this true? I'm not talking about the evolution true stuff.
Because I've never heard that until know.
And if someone could answer the whole "Was Darwin a racist?" could you add some citations please.
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#24
RE: Evolution Facts
He was a man of his time. Yep. He was also an abolitionist. People can be complicated. Try The Descent of Man.

Bear in mind, that at his time the word "racist" as we use it today we simply sound absurd. There were races of plants. Not people. He constantly made the case that with regards to people, we shouldn't really think in terms of race (species) - that we were all one species. Nevertheless, there is the assumption of western european (read:white) superiority just about everywhere in his comments with regards to what we would call races. He just didn't think it was a measure of biology.
(there's a tendency to "mythicize" important people and their positions on issues that resonate with us today, for better or worse - so while one side might say that darwinism led to eugenics and nazism - it didn't; the other would claim that evolutionary theory dispelled the myth of white supremecy - it didn't)
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#25
RE: Evolution Facts
@Zidneya
-These poor xtards don't want any help.
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Funny how he keeps repeating "There's evidence for God all around you", but later in the conversation does not prevent any evidence. Rather, he defends himself with the claim that "the evolutionists are too deluded with the facts of evolution to see it". Oh, and this I learned something new today: evolution is indoctrination. Yes. Definitely not education.
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#26
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 1:43 am)Zidneya Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

That statement still holds true today.
Yeah about Darwin now that we are a boarding the subject. There is one thing that has been bothering me, and I was wondering if anyone can give me some info about that.

(July 12, 2014 at 7:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Darwin was a racist, so evolution can't be true'
Is this true? I'm not talking about the evolution true stuff.
Because I've never heard that until know.
And if someone could answer the whole "Was Darwin a racist?" could you add some citations please.

No, of course Darwin wasn't a racist. But this is one of the non-arguments used by the slackwits to 'disprove' evolution. What they fail to grasp (or refuse to grasp) is that evolution stands on its own merits, regardless of Darwin's views on race. Odd, innit, how they never mention the blatant, flagrant racism of creationist Louis Agassiz?

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#27
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 6:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Odd, innit, how they never mention the blatant, flagrant racism of creationist Louis Agassiz?

Or the racism in the bible, which puts one race on a pedestal as the chosen race, and tells the believers that everyone else is fit for slavery, or murder... whatever. The best anyone else can hope for is to be left alone, assuming they don't get in Israel's way.

Not like the New Testament repeals that either, what with Jesus calling every other race dogs... Angel
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#28
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

That statement still holds true today.


I have emphasized the portion of this statement which is factually incorrect.

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#29
RE: Evolution Facts
Evolution doesn't disprove "God" by any means.

It simply disproves the God most Christian fundies believe in.
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#30
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 6:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, of course Darwin wasn't a racist.
Boru
He was far less racist than his peers, sure. That doesn't mean he wasn't a racist. My grandfather is less racist than a klansman or a neo-nazi (he thinks both groups of people are ignorant bastards). He's still a racist. In fact, he's a racist in the pretty much the same way that Darwin was.
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