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Evolution Facts
#31
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

Please see the linked reply to your quote mining.

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/oct03.html
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#32
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 10:56 am)coldwx Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

Please see the linked reply to your quote mining.

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/oct03.html

Hey, nice catch! I suspected it might be a quote mine, but google turned up nothing. Tongue

So, Alex: what you said was a lie. You gonna retract that and apologize, or do the standard creationist thing and double down on the dishonesty and refuse to admit any wrongdoing? Dodgy
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#33
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 11:02 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 10:56 am)coldwx Wrote: Please see the linked reply to your quote mining.

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/oct03.html

Hey, nice catch! I suspected it might be a quote mine, but google turned up nothing. Tongue

So, Alex: what you said was a lie. You gonna retract that and apologize, or do the standard creationist thing and double down on the dishonesty and refuse to admit any wrongdoing? Dodgy

He chose option 3....scurry away.
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#34
RE: Evolution Facts
Why does anyone care what Darwin said about speciation when I literally showed you current species being observed and catalogued by current scientists as new species currently forming right before our eyes?
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#35
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Put yourself in the shoes of the faithful. Their entire world, everything they hope for and fear is all wrapped up into a few things that they believe some guy actually said. If he didn't say it, or if he didn't exist, or if he could be shown to be wrong - that entire elaborate rat's nest in their mind would disintegrate. They seem to assume that others are saddled under the same ridiculous mindset. Of course it's absurd, but they're religious.......so it's kind of expected.
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#36
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Luckie Wrote: Why does anyone care what Darwin said about speciation when I literally showed you current species being observed and catalogued by current scientists as new species currently forming right before our eyes?

Well, it's just like with Newton, because we know that even though centuries have passed since his startling discovery and delineation of gravity's operation, there have been no significant discoveries in our knowledge of physics. We can safely hold this to be true for biology as well. Wink Shades

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#37
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 1:10 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

Yes. In the eighteen-hundreds. Science has moved on quote a bit since then. Dodgy

Quote:That statement still holds true today.

Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it doesn't. Here's a list of numerous examples. Funny, how you said what you did, apparently without doing any research first. Thinking

Oh, and I warn you: don't come back here and say "Oh, but dogs still give birth to dogs, and cats give birth to cats! We've never seen a fish give birth to a monkey!" That's not what evolution says would happen and, incidentally, would actually disprove evolution as it did. I implore you, be the one evolution denier in all of history to do some research and repair your ignorance of the subject before you respond.

You gave me this really long link to read to give me an example of a new species? Why don't you just mention a few in here? I read it thru and didn't see mentioning any new species.
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#38
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 1:10 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 12:42 am)alexwenzel Wrote: "not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

Yes. In the eighteen-hundreds. Science has moved on quote a bit since then. Dodgy

Quote:That statement still holds true today.

Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it doesn't. Here's a list of numerous examples. Funny, how you said what you did, apparently without doing any research first. Thinking

Oh, and I warn you: don't come back here and say "Oh, but dogs still give birth to dogs, and cats give birth to cats! We've never seen a fish give birth to a monkey!" That's not what evolution says would happen and, incidentally, would actually disprove evolution as it did. I implore you, be the one evolution denier in all of history to do some research and repair your ignorance of the subject before you respond.

One thing with creationists: They just LOVE quote mining, ignore the fact that science has moved on in 150 years and, when presented with evidence they will just ignore it.

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#39
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 1:43 am)Zidneya Wrote: [quote='alexwenzel' pid='706970' dateline='1405226564']
"not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

That statement still holds true today.
Yeah about Darwin now that we are a boarding the subject. There is one thing that has been bothering me, and I was wondering if anyone can give me some info about that.

It is the law of entropy. The digression of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity. In other words, if you look at records there has only been extinctions of species. There has never been any new species recorded.

They have tried to prove evolution using millions of fruit flies, since early 1900. They haven't observed not even a little change of an enzyme. Their conclusion was that "fruit flies appear to be immune to evolution."

Same experiment has been conducted with bacterias that have a lifespan of 15 minutes through many many years. Again, no evolution was observed, despite the exposure to chemicals, radiation and etc.

If you want to know more about this, look at the video below my friend. It is very easy to understand and very informative. It is not a message of I am right and you are wrong. Let me know if I can help. - Alex :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBz1roiQR8
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#40
RE: Evolution Facts
(July 13, 2014 at 10:41 pm)alexwenzel Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 1:43 am)Zidneya Wrote: [quote='alexwenzel' pid='706970' dateline='1405226564']
"not one change of species into another is on record. We can not prove that a SINGLE specie has ever changed". That quote is by Charles Darwin himself. Confusedhock:

That statement still holds true today.
Yeah about Darwin now that we are a boarding the subject. There is one thing that has been bothering me, and I was wondering if anyone can give me some info about that.

It is the law of entropy. The digression of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity. In other words, if you look at records there has only been extinctions of species. There has never been any new species recorded.

They have tried to prove evolution using millions of fruit flies, since early 1900. They haven't observed not even a little change of an enzyme. Their conclusion was that "fruit flies appear to be immune to evolution."

Same experiment has been conducted with bacterias that have a lifespan of 15 minutes through many many years. Again, no evolution was observed, despite the exposure to chemicals, radiation and etc.

If you want to know more about this, look at the video below my friend. It is very easy to understand and very informative. It is not a message of I am right and you are wrong. Let me know if I can help. - Alex :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBz1roiQR8

Now, give us scientific links to prove your assertions.

Don't give us YouTube links to creationist propaganda.

Provide us with SCIENTIFIC links to your claims.

BTW: Ken Ham, Ray Comfort, AiG, and other creationist propaganda sites/claims are NOT scientific evidence.

I want to see links from real scientists - evolutionary biologists - showing your claims to be true.
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