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Open debate: What does Jesus teach?
RE: Open debate: What does Jesus teach?
(August 4, 2014 at 12:29 am)Aractus Wrote:
(August 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm)SteveII Wrote: The meaning of "until everything is accomplished" has several possibilities. It is suggested by the Tyndale New Testament Commentary that the translation: "Until what it [the Law] looks forward to arrives" gives the best sense of this phrase. This links the thought with the idea of "fulfillment" in verse 17. This also seems to be the thrust of Paul’s comments regarding the relationship of the Law and Jesus’ earthly ministry (Galatians 3:19, 23-25).
Tyndale lived in the 16th century, you're quoting me a 500 year old suggestion? Nope never mind, looked it up, - you're quoting me a scholarly work where the scholars had to use the pseudonym of Tyndale rather than publish under their own names?? What's next? "Shakespeare's history of Shakespeare" written by middle-eastern Arabs?

The Tyndale New Testament Commentary expresses the interpretation of "accomplished" in these words:
Quote:This explanation must be the correct one, or else the early Christian church and the apostles violated Matthew 5:17-19 by telling gentile Christians that circumcision and keeping the Law of Moses was not necessary. The book of Galatians would also have been in error on this point. And the book of Hebrews would have been in extraordinary violation of Jesus’ words, too, since it states that the entire sacrificial system, the temple worship and Levitical priesthood had been annulled.
That's right, that's exactly what I'm telling you. What Jesus taught and what Paul et all taught are two entirely different things. If Paul's lineage of Christianity had not survived you would be calling him and his works heretical and following some other "gnostic" tradition.

Lucky the church fathers saw this But they assumed that we probably would get smarter in the future. I mean with the life times in the bible (and many other magical events) no way could people turn this book into an idol. Like many of us. They over estimated intellect but rarely do we over estimate stupidity.

The book was meant as guide. Jesus was meant as a guide. They are not the "real things" anymore than a set of maps and a good set of drawings are. But they are no less useful as these items either. Some people can't or won't understand that.

They don't get the notion that when you understand the landscape better you are allowed to add or subtract some things. It only makes the map better and nothing detracted from the truth of it.

If you understanf where you are. You can try to get to another place.
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