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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
July 21, 2014 at 1:04 am
I'm a bit of a Campbell fan myself. I'm not sure that lucifer actually fits the monomyth, though plenty of other characters in lit do. I do think that we like hero stories for those reasons, yeah (*those of us who like hero stories). I actually like my heroes to be deeply flawed as well, I like to watch them fail.
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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
July 21, 2014 at 1:17 am
(July 21, 2014 at 1:04 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'm a bit of a Campbell fan myself. I'm not sure that lucifer actually fits the monomyth, though plenty of other characters in lit do. I do think that we like hero stories for those reasons, yeah (*those of us who like hero stories). I actually like my heroes to be deeply flawed as well, I like to watch them fail.
Well as you said his character is not consistent throughout the Bible (I wonder if maybe he was written by different humans  ) but I imagine that plenty of people will write Campbell-style myths surrounding him as Christianity falls from its pedestal in this country. And I like heroes who fail (at least temporarily) because it feels much better when they snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
July 21, 2014 at 8:06 am
Do you like them so deeply flawed that they're evicted from Heaven?
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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
July 21, 2014 at 8:44 am
Seems to me that the character of satan was actively trying to accomplish that....lol, so I don't think that it applies. He would be a much better failure had he tried his damndest - and god just smiled and ignored his antics...lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
July 24, 2014 at 1:31 am
Ref. Post. #1:" Presumably, it is not a story that was told by adam or eve, or even god."
So you believe in Adam & Eve and God. Who knew?
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