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Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
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Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
I'm perfectly aware that the properties of Heaven are just wishful thinking and depend on the believer, however I get the impression that supposedly in heaven:

Everyone is equal (very socalist and un-American).
No aspirations, one cannot work their way up the social ladder, or try and becomes richer.
No guns
No violence
No racism
No discrimination
No military
No democracy (I'm guessing God can't be voted out).

This to me seems much more like an idealised socialist state, than a capitalist one. Given the average American Christians hatred of socialism, why do they want to go somewhere that is a socialist paradise?


Getting beyond the childish religious bullshit, it actually asks the more serious and interesting question, what would a perfect world and society look like? If a world is perfect, does it mean that for us as humans there is no challenge and no stimulation, and we are much like a well kept zoo animal?
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
@FreeTony
-No military
What about God's army of angels?
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
Why would a God need an army?
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
(July 21, 2014 at 4:36 am)FreeTony Wrote: Why would a God need an army?

To provide security for his "starship"

And ..........segway,,,,,,,,,!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
Only in America could this list be described as socialism.
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
@FreeTony
-Why would a God need an army?
I dunno, but He has it. The Bible said so.
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
(July 21, 2014 at 4:52 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 21, 2014 at 4:36 am)FreeTony Wrote: Why would a God need an army?

To provide security for his "starship"

And ..........segway,,,,,,,,,!

God doesn't' need an army, his fan-club already does the job
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
(July 21, 2014 at 4:52 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 21, 2014 at 4:36 am)FreeTony Wrote: Why would a God need an army?

To provide security for his "starship"

And ..........segway,,,,,,,,,!

AND SEGWAY!!!.........second try....
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
(July 21, 2014 at 4:15 am)FreeTony Wrote: I'm perfectly aware that the properties of Heaven are just wishful thinking and depend on the believer, however I get the impression that supposedly in heaven:

Everyone is equal (very socalist and un-American).

What in the world makes you say this?

Some Americans are bigots, some aren't; but those attitudes aren't inculcated by the sociopolitical system.

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RE: Heaven - An awful place for Christians?
(July 21, 2014 at 4:15 am)FreeTony Wrote: I'm perfectly aware that the properties of Heaven are just wishful thinking and depend on the believer, however I get the impression that supposedly in heaven:

Everyone is equal (very socalist and un-American).
No aspirations, one cannot work their way up the social ladder, or try and becomes richer.
No guns
No violence
No racism
No discrimination
No military
No democracy (I'm guessing God can't be voted out).

This to me seems much more like an idealised socialist state, than a capitalist one. Given the average American Christians hatred of socialism, why do they want to go somewhere that is a socialist paradise?


Getting beyond the childish religious bullshit, it actually asks the more serious and interesting question, what would a perfect world and society look like? If a world is perfect, does it mean that for us as humans there is no challenge and no stimulation, and we are much like a well kept zoo animal?
You forgot:

No marriage and no sex.

Seriously though, the most lasting happiness I get out of anything, is the satisfaction I feel after I've done something difficult but worth while. Heaven should not be a place where everything is provided to the point there are no challenges. That would get boring in a hell of a hurry (pun intended).
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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