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Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
#11
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 8:46 am)JuliaL Wrote: The association between testosterone and violent aggressive behavior is documented, but the mechanism needs much more study before detailed causation can be explained and the side effects accurately predicted. Personally, I wonder what the subjective experience is but I'm not willing to pull the trigger on that gun to find out for myself.

I'm trusting Patricia Churchland here, but the testosterone and aggression link isn't as 'clean' as typically reported. There's evidence that seratonin levels play and important role as well as an individual's childhood exposure to abuse. This seems to support your initial concern of not getting too enamored with any claims that suggest a particular hormone results in a particular behavior.
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#12
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 1:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: Seems as if a chat with your prescribing physician may be in order.

How cold of you... how could I possibly disturb her rest?

(July 25, 2014 at 7:06 am)Rayaan Wrote: I don't think so. Nonetheless, remember that too much meds can screw up your mind too.

So... that's a yes. Good.

Quote:Most likely, yes, or maybe to some extent at least.

But the answer to that also depends on what hormone you're talking about.

Testosterone. It's too much.

(July 25, 2014 at 6:43 am)Insanity Wrote: Hormones really do affect the mind especially with emotions. It's certainly worth doing what Min said.

How about... schizophrenia?

(July 25, 2014 at 8:14 am)Little lunch Wrote: I have been in a similar position years ago when I was remote and ran out of pot and cigarettes. My suggestion is to read a lot, keep busy and stay away from annoying people.
Good luck. :-)

Actually, that last one would make my condition far worse. Isolation from real people destroys me. Keeping busy is good, if it's mentally exhausting (like... art), otherwise it's just autopilot.

Reading a lot < Writing a lot.

(July 25, 2014 at 8:46 am)JuliaL Wrote: Our lack of understanding of the complex interactions in the network of neurochemistry which results in consciousness makes any simplistic statement such as: "an imbalance in chemical X causes insanity" effectively meaningless.
Sure, sufficient doses of methamphetamine or cocaine will make one feel really good temporarily, but the long term damage done by chronic use makes taking them a bad idea.
The association between testosterone and violent aggressive behavior is documented, but the mechanism needs much more study before detailed causation can be explained and the side effects accurately predicted. Personally, I wonder what the subjective experience is but I'm not willing to pull the trigger on that gun to find out for myself.

That... is what i was looking for. You've earned a deadly reputation for yourself, JuliaL Smile
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#13
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
Quote:How cold of you... how could I possibly disturb her rest?

ROFLOL



This may be one time where you need to be impolite.
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#14
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 2:48 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote: See, this is why I don't take stock in the idea of a "soul." If our personality was so wrapped up in something immaterial, how could it possibly be affected by chemical imbalances in our brain, brain damage, etc.?

Slight tangent aside, I definitely would see your psychiatrist and/or physician.

'Soul' is personality. Any being of personhood has a soul.

I'd prefer to just buy my meds again... I don't need to see them for any other reason than to go through them to buy my hormone medication.

And I may not even have to do that much.

(July 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm)Cato Wrote: I'm trusting Patricia Churchland here, but the testosterone and aggression link isn't as 'clean' as typically reported. There's evidence that seratonin levels play and important role as well as an individual's childhood exposure to abuse. This seems to support your initial concern of not getting too enamored with any claims that suggest a particular hormone results in a particular behavior.

Helps that I understand why T has such a psychological effect on me. Was curious as to whether its physiological backlash is partly responsible for a relapse as well.

The dysphoria alone is horrible, and reacts extremely poorly with separation disorders (DID, Schiz, OOBExperiences, etc). It's not a question that as a conflicting being is inserted that things get messy... it's a question of whether there's more to it than a clash of person, say next question:

Does one's physiological state at a time of trauma provide an opportunity to bring forth said trauma as ptsd/hallucinatory illnesses if one is put back into a similar physiological state as they had at the previous time of trauma?

(July 25, 2014 at 4:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This may be one time where you need to be impolite.

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#15
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Alice Wrote:
(July 25, 2014 at 1:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: Seems as if a chat with your prescribing physician may be in order.

How cold of you... how could I possibly disturb her rest?
Why when Alice replies this kind of stuff everyone else laughs with her but when I say some alluring crazy statement or joke about drugs and stuff people treat me like I have rabies…
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It's so unfair.
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#16
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Zidneya Wrote: Why when Alice replies this kind of stuff everyone else laughs with her but when I say some alluring crazy statement or joke about drugs and stuff people treat me like I have rabies…
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It's so unfair.

It's a five year plan. I've worked hard for this, by just being myself.

Whoever myself was at time of writing Thinking
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#17
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Zidneya Wrote: Why when Alice replies this kind of stuff everyone else laughs with her but when I say some alluring crazy statement or joke about drugs and stuff people treat me like I have rabies…
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It's so unfair.

You've got to own it.

You can't half ass saying something awesome then backtrack. Go the whole hog and don't give a fuck. Do it often enough and people respect you for it.

(July 25, 2014 at 4:49 pm)Alice Wrote: Helps that I understand why T has such a psychological effect on me. Was curious as to whether its physiological backlash is partly responsible for a relapse as well.

Its been a while since I've studied it and everything is a little mixed up in my head. However, I think that continued exposure to certain hormones/brain chemicals gives a sort of resistance to it. If you have been reducing the amount of T and now you are getting more of that your resistance may be low and therefore having a greater effect.

(July 25, 2014 at 4:49 pm)Alice Wrote: Does one's physiological state at a time of trauma provide an opportunity to bring forth said trauma as ptsd/hallucinatory illnesses if one is put back into a similar physiological state as they had at the previous time of trauma?

I think its entirely possible. You can have similar things from physical situations so it would make sense that it can work that way.
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#18
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
Alice, I love you, but quit being a tart fart and go to the fu$%&*# doctor.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#19
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
(July 25, 2014 at 6:21 pm)Luckie Wrote: Alice, I love you, but quit being a tart fart and go to the fu$%&*# doctor.

Why? Thinking I rather appreciate what I can do. It would be silly to quiet my mind through force, wasting it... if I can come to control it (for the most part).

You realize I cannot do what you suggest until I am in Texas again, yes? That's a month from now. I have to survive until then, and the only way I'm getting into a medical facility early is by completely losing it, which would be rather the step backwards, I believe. Smile

(July 25, 2014 at 6:03 pm)Insanity Wrote: Its been a while since I've studied it and everything is a little mixed up in my head. However, I think that continued exposure to certain hormones/brain chemicals gives a sort of resistance to it. If you have been reducing the amount of T and now you are getting more of that your resistance may be low and therefore having a greater effect.

Tolerance, then? Not surprisingly, I find this intolerable Sleepy

Quote:I think its entirely possible. You can have similar things from physical situations so it would make sense that it can work that way.

Triggers on the outside... triggers on the inside. Triggers left, triggers right, triggers going topside.

Tree-eye-double guh-errrs, that spells TRIGGERS!
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#20
RE: Hormones and the mental health of crazy people
Quote: Do it often enough and people respect you for it.


Yup. There are some strange mothers around here.
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