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I Need A Sincere Christian Response Please
#11
RE: I Need A Sincere Christian Response Please
Most theologians are going to say pets don't make it to heaven for precisely the reason Polaris gave. But if you'd like to give her hope there are two passages in Isaiah about a time of peace which might suggest animals will share the second coming.


Isaiah 11


Isaiah 65:17-25
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#12
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When I was 11 and sitting in some boring ass sunday school class I noticed the girl next to me was crying. I thought she was bored to tears as I was so I didn't think anything of it. Eventually, sister mary numb-nuts up front noticed her crying and asked what was wrong.

The kid said her dog died the night before and the nun made some "I'm sorry" sounds and prepared to go back to her jesus bullshit. Then the girl asked "will I see my dog in heaven?" Rather than just say 'yes' this nun gave pretty much the answer that Polecat gave which only caused the kid to cry harder.

It was right about that time that I realized that these religious types were fairly useless as human beings. Its been all downhill from there.
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#13
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(July 28, 2014 at 9:16 pm)PaulMaul Wrote: Well, you could just tell her that everything in the bible is bullshit and there is no heaven for anyone, human nor animal.
I'm sure she'll like that answer. Big Grin
Respectfully... She's heard that from me (in so many words). While I agree with you, I also find it necessary to build a bridge, and therefore, I seek legitimate apologetic advance, one way or the other.

@PaulMaul...
Thank you sincerely for your response.

(July 28, 2014 at 9:23 pm)Polaris Wrote: The image of God is the soul as the only faith of the Book that alludes to God having physical attributes akin to human form is Christianity. She has to examine the Bible for herself.
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#14
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(July 29, 2014 at 1:36 am)ShaMan Wrote:
(July 28, 2014 at 9:16 pm)PaulMaul Wrote: Well, you could just tell her that everything in the bible is bullshit and there is no heaven for anyone, human nor animal.
I'm sure she'll like that answer. Big Grin
Respectfully... She's heard that from me (in so many words). While I agree with you, I also find it necessary to build a bridge, and therefore, I seek legitimate apologetic advance, one way or the other.

@PaulMaul...
Thank you sincerely for your response.

(July 28, 2014 at 9:23 pm)Polaris Wrote: The image of God is the soul as the only faith of the Book that alludes to God having physical attributes akin to human form is Christianity. She has to examine the Bible for herself.
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God does not have a physical form (just look at the Jewish beliefs on depicting God); therefore, if humans are made in the image of God, "made in the image" applies to the spiritual and not the physical. They are granted the potential for Heaven because their spirit is ultimately from Heaven itself whereas the non-humans are solely of the earth.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#15
I Need A Sincere Christian Response Please
Revelation 19:14 says the armies of heaven come in riding horses. So I'd say yes.
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#16
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Doesn't the bible say you need to believe in Jesus to go to heaven? I'm pretty certain my dog doesn't believe in Jesus.
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#17
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Animals do have souls. The Hebrew translated "living creatures" in Genesis is the same that's translated as soul with regard to humans. However, that doesn't really matter in this case, as to my knowledge there's no passage which says that creatures with souls necessarily go to heaven, or that a soul is a requirement to go to heaven.

Personally I believe that there is a place for animals in the next life, based on:

Romans 8
20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Creation itself is saved, and animals are part of creation.
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#18
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I think a lot of animals have more 'soul' than a lot of people do.
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#19
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Of course animals will go to heaven. Anyone that's read the Bible knows God's fondness of the aroma of their burning flesh.
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#20
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Like all religions, it is open to creative interpretation. In other words, if it feels good, believe it. No evidence required.
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