Should children be violently abused without their permission.

[Minimalist]

Do they ever explain why they need to do it in the first place, instead of Yahweh just making people born without this stuff?

Yeah...that is a very good question.

What Gen 1 should say is:

Gen 1, 31 - And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good....except for that thing on the ends of their dicks.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Foreskin isn't "extra". It's a feature, not a bug. You might even say it's ribbed, for her pleasure. Eat you heart out circumsicees, I'm slangin a godamned sextoy and all you have is herr helmut.

As any military man will tell you, it ain't the hardware, it's the tactician.

[paulpablo]

For example Islam and Judaism proscribe circumcision.
But the child is never consulted in this matter.
There may have been great health benefits from this procedure in ages past but in the modern world?
Germany where this procedure is not routine, mooted banning it on human rights grounds, there was uproar from the religious communities and it was quietly dropped.
Lets go one further FGM Female Genital Mutilation as Practised throughout a great part of North Africa mainly by Islamic communities. Extreme unnecessary violence against little girls leading to lifelong medical problems.
Should we endeavour to ban these practises or should we not upset the rights of religious people to violate their children.

I agree with what you're saying entirely but the child not being consulted in the matter isn't an important issue. There's countless things different societies put children through without their consent.
Education, haircuts, put clothes on them, feed them.
But yeh it should be banned but it's unlikely to happen in the African communities you mentioned, infact the Muslims who are practicing genital mutilation are probably quite tame by the relative standards of the fucked in the head religious people in Africa.
Even in this day and age superstitious people in africa are paying for the severed limbs of Albino people because they think it brings them good luck, and killing people they believe to be witches.
But in places like Germany they should be definitely stopping this primitive bog brained procedure.

[Dystopia]

For example Islam and Judaism proscribe circumcision.
But the child is never consulted in this matter.
There may have been great health benefits from this procedure in ages past but in the modern world?
Germany where this procedure is not routine, mooted banning it on human rights grounds, there was uproar from the religious communities and it was quietly dropped.
Lets go one further FGM Female Genital Mutilation as Practised throughout a great part of North Africa mainly by Islamic communities. Extreme unnecessary violence against little girls leading to lifelong medical problems.
Should we endeavour to ban these practises or should we not upset the rights of religious people to violate their children.

I agree with what you're saying entirely but the child not being consulted in the matter isn't an important issue. There's countless things different societies put children through without their consent.

Education, haircuts, put clothes on them, feed them.
But yeh it should be banned but it's unlikely to happen in the African communities you mentioned, infact the Muslims who are practicing genital mutilation are probably quite tame by the relative standards of the fucked in the head religious people in Africa.
Even in this day and age superstitious people in africa are paying for the severed limbs of Albino people because they think it brings them good luck, and killing people they believe to be witches.
But in places like Germany they should be definitely stopping this primitive bog brained procedure.

Education, clothing and haircuts are essential, and even things like haircuts can be reversed, hair grows back, a foreskin does not.

Let's say my parents pierced my ears after I was born (even though that doesn't happen to males often) - I don't like pierced ears on me, I think I should have the right to sue them and get a compensation

[Chas]

Circumcision is a wonderful thing.

No, it is not.

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I'm circumcised. I never felt abused or any of that shit. I'm glad I was. I don't have to open my dick to clean it. My son is circumcised also. And no, I did not ask his permission.

Oh, so it's a labor-saving device? If you cut off his head, he wouldn't have to brush his teeth.

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I've only ever seen circumcised men in pictures. It seems like the top half is almost always a different color than the bottom half. I wonder about that sometimes. Like...why?
I don't like calling it mutilation. I mean, people have extra fingers and toes removed from their babies and it's not called mutilation. I was really excited when the American Association of Pediatrics stopped recommending it though.

Except it is mutilation. So, there's that.

[Shaggy]

If i cut off his head he would die. See the separation?

It's not mutilation. It's no more mutilating than a tattoo or a piercing.

[Diablo]

If i cut off his head he would die. See the separation?

It's not mutilation. It's no more mutilating than a tattoo or a piercing.

So would you tattoo or pierce a baby?

[Shaggy]

If i cut off his head he would die. See the separation?

It's not mutilation. It's no more mutilating than a tattoo or a piercing.

So would you tattoo or pierce a baby?

Baby girls get their ears pierced all the time. When mine is old enough yes we're having her ears pierced.

[Diablo]

So would you tattoo or pierce a baby?

Baby girls get their ears pierced all the time. When mine is old enough yes we're having her ears pierced.

You're going to give her some nice tattoos too?

[Shaggy]

Baby girls get their ears pierced all the time. When mine is old enough yes we're having her ears pierced.

You're going to give her some nice tattoos too?

Nope no tattoos. We tried but it's really tough finding a decent tattoo artist that'll ink up a 3 month old.