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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:38 pm
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I gotta get you in mah TS server Boru. I need some serious immersion. Ive been neglecting gaelic in favor of chinese recently, but I won't be satisfied until I have them both down like I were a native speaker.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:39 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Blackout Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 3:36 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
I recently listened to a webcast about how Alaska has made some of its native languages official state languages, in an effort to promote efforts to conserve languages that are in danger of becoming extinct.
Is there a point to spending money to save a language from becoming extinct?
In my opinion yes, it's cultural patrimony, and culture doesn't really have a price even though we attribute it frequently. If the portuguese language was endangered, I'd be happy people spent money to save it, and I'd do the same for any other language.
"A minha pátria é a língua portuguesa"
Of course this depends, if there is only one or two speakers and the language is virtually useless, it should be recorded for others to learn but it doesn't mean we should preserve it.
Brazil. Don't worry.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:42 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Diablo Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Blackout Wrote: In my opinion yes, it's cultural patrimony, and culture doesn't really have a price even though we attribute it frequently. If the portuguese language was endangered, I'd be happy people spent money to save it, and I'd do the same for any other language.
"A minha pátria é a língua portuguesa"
Of course this depends, if there is only one or two speakers and the language is virtually useless, it should be recorded for others to learn but it doesn't mean we should preserve it.
Brazil. Don't worry.
Yeah Brazil is a great pillar to spread the portuguese language, despite the different accents and grammatical divergences. It's kinda like the british English V american one, the USA helps spreading the English language. You from Brazil?
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:43 pm
You'll never, EVER have Irish down as a native speaker. But have fun trying. 
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:46 pm
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LOL, thats what I've heard. Alas, amusingly, I've "heard" that the reason is in what we hear - as native speakers of this or that language. Nevertheless, I could show you what those words, pronunciations, and accents transformed -into- when they met the appalachians (as far as I know them). Think of it as a trade...lol. Might give you a laugh.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 5:57 pm
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(August 9, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Blackout Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Diablo Wrote: Brazil. Don't worry.
Yeah Brazil is a great pillar to spread the portuguese language, despite the different accents and grammatical divergences. It's kinda like the british English V american one, the USA helps spreading the English language. You from Brazil?
Not quite.
(August 9, 2014 at 5:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You'll never, EVER have Irish down as a native speaker. But have fun trying.
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I tend to agree. But I did know someone who wrote Gaelic poetry.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 6:13 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Diablo Wrote: [quote='Blackout' pid='727285' dateline='1407620532']
Yeah Brazil is a great pillar to spread the portuguese language, despite the different accents and grammatical divergences. It's kinda like the british English V american one, the USA helps spreading the English language. You from Brazil? Quote:Not quite.
I just assumed since you mentioned Brazil
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 6:15 pm
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(August 9, 2014 at 3:36 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
I recently listened to a webcast about how Alaska has made some of its native languages official state languages, in an effort to promote efforts to conserve languages that are in danger of becoming extinct.
Is there a point to spending money to save a language from becoming extinct?
If by extinct, you mean the language stopped being used, or no longer have any native speakers, but had been well documented in a scholarly fashion, and it's oral traditional transcribed, then no, it is not worth saving from extinction, especially not by the elaborate effort of making it an official language.
But if it is threatening to go extinct before being thoroughly documented, then it is well worth the scholarly effort to thoroughly document it linguistically, and record as many of its surviving oral tradition as possible before it becomes extinct.
Basically, languages that are dying are in many cases worth recording and remembering, but not really worth saving or resuscitating.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 9, 2014 at 6:18 pm
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Absolutely. Only 1.3 million people speak the language of my people and it would be a shame if it disappeared.
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RE: Should we rescue endangered languages?
August 10, 2014 at 8:44 am
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I've used the endangered language archive on occasion as part of my studies, and I've learnt a language that is endangered (to a level of reasonable proficiency, not quite fluent), a language with a lower estimate of only 6000 widely dispersed native speakers. There are projects out there that aim to archive these languages and record samples in a scholarly fashion.
If you think it's worth saving, then do your part and learn it or donate to one of those projects. There are far more important things to do before this is worried about though in my opinion, so I'll pass.
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