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My brother made a good point
#21
RE: My brother made a good point
Firstly, welcome. Before you wade in to the forum-proper, it's good form to do an 'intro' thread, let us know a little about yourself. You can do that here

...and like Igno said, here comes the blast.

(August 11, 2014 at 5:30 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: He said that while scientists try to disprove God...
No they don't, he lied. Whilst I'm not going to be able to speak for the motivations of every scientist, the overwhelming majority (when asked) state that their motivations are along the lines of adding to the sum of human knowledge, discovering something new, turning over established views and helping people. What you're parroting is a common theistic misrepresentation of scientists in order to demonise them.

Quote:...science changes everyday, what's right one day is wrong the next, so how can you rely on it?
Not every day but yes, I get your point, science does change. More accurately, it corrects itself; as new evidence is found, as new tests are completed, as new experiments are formed, as better explanations are formulated, the scientific view of an individual subject comes ever closer to an accurate description of reality. That's the purpose of the scientific method; not just to find things out but to make sure that our discoveries are as accurate as possible, given the knowledge we have at the time. It's a self-correcting, self-motivating, self-advancing methodology.

Quote:Meanwhile God and Christianity is never changing.
Rhythm's already done this one but I'll repeat for emphasis: your type of Christianity probably didn't exist 200 years ago and if it did, the doctrine would have been very different as would the actions taken by the adherents.

Quote:He also said he was speaking to a former evolutionary scientist who said there's no evidence for evolution, to be fair though I didn't hear much of that story.
And you should stop listening right there. Not only is there an overwhelming abundance of evidence to support the theory, it's the only theory that comes anywhere near close to explaining the observed facts. Science is as sure about evolution as it is about gravity, conservation of momentum or the water cycle.

Your short post is brimming over with disingenuity. I hope it's not going to be typical of your future subject-matter.
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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: What has religion done recently?
Save my brother from certain death. The doctors said he was done for but through faith in God he completely recovered, even the Muslim doctor said our family's faith had something to do with it.

Evidence please. Not just mumbo-jumbo bullshit but real verifiable evidence.
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RE: My brother made a good point
Quote:My brother is a COLLEGE GRADUATE by the way.

From where? Bob Jones University?
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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: even the Muslim doctor said our family's faith had something to do with it.
Dodgy
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RE: My brother made a good point
I smell sock.
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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: My brother is a COLLEGE GRADUATE by the way.

Barber college?
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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(August 11, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: My brother is a COLLEGE GRADUATE by the way.

Barber college?

No geography.
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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:45 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: A liver disease.

And did the nice doctors give him medicine?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#29
RE: My brother made a good point
So your position---let me get this straight---is that it is more admirable to stick with something you know to be false or incorrect rather than amend your position as you learn new things? That somehow because scientists are happy (excited even!) to admit when they've gotten it wrong (and then proving how they corrected themselves!)---this makes them an unreliable source when seeking to describe the world in realistic terms?

And then on top of this, you are further claiming that the backwards bronze age mentality that comes with Christianity and your particular god is a good thing because you like to think it never changes? Do you still sell your daughters into marriage for a bride price? Do you stone people for minor infractions? Do you still burn "witches" at the stake? Do you still support the overt racism borne of Christian leaders in the south in the 60's? Of course your religion has changed.

Welcome.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: My brother made a good point
(August 11, 2014 at 5:56 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I smell sock.
Yup
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