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 (August 19, 2014 at 3:27 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:23 am)Tobie Wrote: may be a forgery Great, ignore the rest of my post then. Also, read Min's post.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
Ok so if a couple friends of mine and I claimed that another guy was resurrected and started to write books about it would you trust us? If our girlfriends were to agree with us too, wouldn't the evidence for our claim be compelling to you?
Or would it be just us making shit up?
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder. Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids." 
Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they agreed on the resurrection appearances they each experienced and both took place in groups.
 (August 19, 2014 at 3:31 am)revivin Wrote: Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they agreed on the resurrection appearances they each experienced and both took place in groups. Repeating assertions doesn't make them true.
There is one fact I glean more than any other that is trustworthy out of all the books of the NT that Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they agreed on the resurrection appearances they experienced in groups.
(August 19, 2014 at 3:35 am)revivin Wrote: There is one fact I glean more than any other that is trustworthy out of all the books of the NT that Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they agreed on the resurrection appearances they experienced in groups. What did I just say? You're treading a fine line here between actual discourse and repeated assertions and circular reasoning as nauseum. See that you don't drift into the latter. (August 19, 2014 at 3:39 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: assertions When I read the NT I think there are some facts we can glean from it. One of those facts is out of all the epistles of Paul, one thing is sure, he believed he spent 15 days with Peter and they both shared the experience of believing they saw Jesus resurrected to groups.  (August 19, 2014 at 3:14 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:13 am)Esquilax Wrote: all agree with each other Given that multiple corroborations form the basis of every other religion too, it's clear that it isn't the be all and end all of reality. People can agree on wrong things in surprisingly large numbers. What matters is physical evidence that agrees with these claims, and with regards to the resurrection we have no indication that the claim is even possible.
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