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Well hello all, I've not been here long but I can see already that this will be a nice home! I'm still figuring out the lay of the land, so hang in there with me. My name is Des (Desiree) I'm 34 and a married mother of 2 young ladies. First things first, I absolutely cannot justify, to myself or anyone else, bringing up my babes with the 'word of god'. It feels insipid. I cannot abide letting them grow up to rely on faith when there's so much fact. There's so much more to that, however I have a hard time sometimes putting it in to words.
I grew up in a somewhat christian house with somewhat religious parents. By somewhat I mean when it was convenient for them haha. My dad's family is uber religious, very strong faith and they actually live by the word, which in my experience is so rare. I see so many people claim to be good loving Christians when in fact their lives do not reflect those beliefs, and really all I see is a bunch of people using god to control others. I used to be kind of jealous of people who had true and strong faith, and then I started investigating and thinking for myself and now I have pity for them.
I've devoted a nice chunk of my life toward the search...looking for god, faith, a comfortable religion, anything at all really. For some reason I could never find it. I don't know how long I will keep searching either, because honestly at this point I am far more comfortable now, it feels so freeing to be honest about that. If nothing else, I'm not sure if I'm a true atheist or rather an agnostic, because perhaps I will never give up. I don't have that answer yet, but I really enjoy the discussion here and I look forward to many of them! Thank you :-)
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#2
RE: Newbie
Welcome
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#3
RE: Newbie
Well you've came to the right place if you are still looking for god. He's actually an atheist and a prominent member here. He loves playing hide and seek so what better place to hide than in a nest filled with theist's greatest enemies? Warm welcomes and probably some cookies are on the way.
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(September 10, 2014 at 10:21 am)MistressD Wrote: I grew up in a somewhat christian house with somewhat religious parents. By somewhat I mean when it was convenient for them haha.
I was raised a Jehovah's Witness, and they don't allow the relaxed approach to worship. But I did often notice that for many people their religious affiliation was little more than a label, not much different than their preferred political party or favorite sports team. Yes, they could have strong feelings about many issues, but in general they don't let religion get in the way of their day-to-day lives. I notice it even more now, because without any religion I have a lot more in common with "religious" people than I did when I was a fundamentalist!

Welcome to the forums. Good luck with your search.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Welcome

You'd better keep this handy...
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And just to be PC Angel
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Hi
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#6
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(September 10, 2014 at 10:21 am)MistressD Wrote: I don't have that answer yet

Relax, no one does. Angel

In any case,

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And welcome to the forums
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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Hey Welcome
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#8
RE: Newbie
Hello MistressD! Smile And welcome! I have a little girl also, and I too feel strongly against raising her religiously. Of all things, she is my biggest reason for the search to compile as much true information that I can to teach her right and how to think critically and skeptically.

I've only been here a few days and I enjoy it. I hope you do too.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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Glad to have you Mistress D (hehe that feels funny to say Blush )
Anywho welcome to the forum. Make yourself at home.
Here are some flutterby welcome cookies for you. I assume Noodly would call them short cake with icing and Ben Davis would call them biscuits, but you can call them whatever you like because they're yours Wink

(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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