magical thinking

[TruthWorthy]

magical thinking
I just happened across this interesting term. Any thoughts on it?

[tackattack]

mildly intersting. My thoughts.. while I wholeheartedly agree that thought alone can not effect the physical world. Thoughts can affect the perception of others "percievied world" and have in my experience.

[HalcyonicTrust]

Thoughts can effect he perception of others? What like... telepathy - according to you - ?

I guess our thoughts may effect our own perception (at least unconsciously) - in the sense that 'we' (our conscious mind) do not truly 'see' (or hear, touch, smell or taste) - what our brain doesn't let us. I believe?

EvF

[tackattack]

lol no .. not thoughts by themselves it would still take an action of communication. For instance here's an excercise:

Finish reading this paragraph and close your eyes. Do a quick spin in your chair now. When your eyes are closed. Visualize as many red objects as you can in the room you're in, then open your eyes to verify.

Touch a red item feel it's texture. Bring it close to your eyes (till out of focus)and back 3 or 4 times. Now close your eyes and try again to identify as many as possible.

You will find yourself after this experiment noticing more red things than you would usually do, or llingering on stop signs. Your focus of will is your perception of your reality.

[TruthWorthy]

I think drive and perception are completely separate. For example, the person hiking across the antarctic snow caps and is short on supplies. His circumstances might reduce his goal to survival, but the will to live was still present before such circumstances forced him to meet those needs.
What you're talking about with noticing such things happens through significance. Such as after purchasing a car and noticing the same car you've purchased everywhere, termed perceptual accentuation and it means tuning in to specific stimulus which is in favour of supporting previous ideas, decisions, experience, also tuning out those stimuli which are not in agreement with such.

[tackattack]

Ok so it already has a term called perceptual accentuation. My point was that it is manipulatable from outside influences directly.

[TruthWorthy]

You get out of something what you put in.

[tackattack]

put or allow?

[TruthWorthy]

Contribute or deny; you can't expect to gain where you refuse to contribute.

[tackattack]

ok I'm lost now.. perhaps sleep will do me good lol