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>without the bad you can't appreciate the good
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 12:06 am
Your argument is too black and white. Good and bad is a spectrum.
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 12:11 am
(October 22, 2014 at 12:02 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote:
(October 21, 2014 at 11:58 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: No problem IS a problem in itself.

To say there is no problems means there is not any problems. What you're saying is basically like trying to add or subtract or divide or multiply zero by zero.
No, a problem isn't a constant integer. What is a problem, in many instances, is defined by our perceptions, and it can be associated with both good and bad depending on your perspective of it. So when you take it away, you are creating a problem for those who perceived it as good.
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 12:18 am
(October 22, 2014 at 12:11 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(October 22, 2014 at 12:02 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: To say there is no problems means there is not any problems. What you're saying is basically like trying to add or subtract or divide or multiply zero by zero.
No, a problem isn't a constant integer. What is a problem, in many instances, is defined by our perceptions, and it can be associated with both good and bad depending on your perspective of it. So when you take it away, you are creating a problem for those who perceived it as good.

That makes sense. I heard that in sociology they can't define anything as deviant behavior because it's defined by the scenario. I guess the same principles applies. I was being more cathartic in the OP than anything though. I guess it isn't possible to have good without bad. I just don't like the world we live in.
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 12:51 am
What is good? What is bad? Who's to say?
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 1:35 am
(October 22, 2014 at 12:18 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I just don't like the world we live in.
...so make a better world, that is what everyone is trying to do in their own way, even religious people.
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 9:37 am
To MLA, the mirror situation was to illustrate (room full of people) that we ALL are the problem.
I was not singling you out.
This is a hard concept to grasp and flies in the face of our "Me generation" indoctrination where nobody
wants to accept responsibility for their own actions.
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 9:49 am
I agree, we are all responsible for our own actions. Can you just imagine if we went around blaming all our actions on a scapegoat and letting him take the blame and the sacrifice for our bad ones?

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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 10:28 am
(October 22, 2014 at 12:51 am)Losty Wrote: What is good? What is bad? Who's to say?

You're so bad you're good. Big Grin
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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 10:29 am
I found that balance in my life is best brought about by accepting what I cannot change, and changing what I cannot accept.

I don't expect kindness or goodness from the days, I understand that the Universe does not care for me, and still I've made up my mind that they will pry life from my cold dead hands.

It works for me; I'm happy but not blind, realistic but not mordant.

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RE: >without the bad you can't appreciate the good
October 22, 2014 at 10:41 am (This post was last modified: October 22, 2014 at 10:42 am by bennyboy.)
1. Appreciating good is good.
2. The bad allows me to appreciate the good.
3. Therefore the bad is good.
4. Paradox fail.
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