a question for theists

[Drich]

Yeah, I hate when science tries to change my life. That's why I deny its existence whenever I can...Now, if I could just find the send button on this smart phone...Ah! Here it is.

the global warming model was falsified to make it seem like it was happening. reality the world is getting colder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environ...-data.html

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The planet does not produce Heat on the surface, so it is neither gets warmer or colder. So the average surface temp has nothing to do with what happens here. the average surface temp is controled by our only heat source. When the source puts out more heat it is warmer, and when it puts out less it's colder. Now couple this with our planetary rotation (We do not revolve around the sun like a tire spins) we have an orbit more like a hula hoop. Some summers we are closer to the sun and some winters we are further away.. And then there are the wild summers when the sun puts out very little and we are further away than normal, and the temps never get above freezing.

[dyresand]

the global warming model was falsified to make it seem like it was happening. reality the world is getting colder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environ...-data.html

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The planet does not produce Heat on the surface, so it is neither gets warmer or colder. So the average surface temp has nothing to do with what happens here. the average surface temp is controled by our only heat source. When the source puts out more heat it is warmer, and when it puts out less it's colder. Now couple this with our planetary rotation (We do not revolve around the sun like a tire spins) we have an orbit more like a hula hoop. Some summers we are closer to the sun and some winters we are further away.. And then there are the wild summers when the sun puts out very little and we are further away than normal, and the temps never get above freezing.

here is another source.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...l-warming/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...s-cooling/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Londo...A-and-NOAA





if you say otherwise give me some info.
also we haven't fucked up the planet enough for it to start happening but we can stop fucking it up when we develop alternative fuels and traveling methods etc.

[fr0d0]

what do you think about us atheists and can you explain why some theists just down right hate us and why do you allow some people to take money from you like tv evangelists scammers like benny hinn and peter popoff.

I think you're imperfect versions of me and should try harder to get with the plan.

Christians all love you silly. Your welfare is their purpose in life. You didn't want it, but they're going to give it to you anyway.

It's true I paid that assassin that once but I don't know how you found out about that.

[Mystic]

Christians all love you silly.

I understanding saying Christianity teaches to love you and all Christians should love you. But to say Christians love him, is that accurate, when Atheists are a hated minority?

[fr0d0]

/seriousface: yes mystic I think so

[Bad Wolf]

Incase of the Global warming frenzy/sky is falling Al (chicken little) Gore.

I have literally never even heard Al Gore talk before....except in South Park, anybody remember manbearpig?

Basically it is whatever leader who uses the 'science' button into changing the way you think, do business or live.

You mean whatever leader who presents facts based on the scientific method. You know why smoking was banned indoors? Because it's bad for you. Know how we know that? Science.

Whats great about this is that you don't have to be an atheist to accept science. So I don't know why you call atheists sheople for accepting science, when plenty of theists also do.

...and I just gave a pound to giving a poop to those who care.

Don't really understand why you said this. You implied that atheists don't give to charity but i'm an atheist and I give to charity, so how does that fit in with your schema of an atheist? And of course we're not even going to talk about how you have not provided an ounce of evidence to support that claim of yours.

[Chas]

Yeah, I hate when science tries to change my life. That's why I deny its existence whenever I can...Now, if I could just find the send button on this smart phone...Ah! Here it is.

the global warming model was falsified to make it seem like it was happening. reality the world is getting colder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environ...-data.html

Except for the small detail that his 'expert' is wrong.

The radiative transfer models used by government climate scientists show that going up to 550 PPM or even 1000 PPM CO2 will make minimal difference to the radiative balance of the atmosphere. The knee of the CO2 curve is at about 30 PPM, and additional CO2 has little first order effect. This is because almost all radiation in the CO2 absorption spectra is already being absorbed by H2O or CO2 molecules. Adding more CO2 has minimal effect, because there is not much radiation left to be absorbed. (This is a bit of an oversimplification because of second order effects, but those are also small.) There is no indication from the radiative transfer models used by government scientists that additional CO2 will cause large amounts of heating.

He has misstated what "knee of the curve" means. Does he misunderstand it? It is the point of inflection of the slope of the curve - the point where it starts to go more vertical than horizontal. We've passed it - there is no limit to the amount of heat that can be absorbed when there is no limit to the greenhouse gases. His 'analysis' is simply, and obviously, wrong.

The temperature record of both the US and the world has been massively altered since older versions, almost invariably to create the appearance of more warming, and in some cases to create warming where there is none.

This is bollocks. What 'alteration' of what 'older versions'? The records are checked against tree ring and ice core data. We only have instrumented records since the mid-nineteenth century.

Sea level has been rising for 20,000 years, and is now 400 feet higher than it was when the first humans walked to North America from Asia across the Bering Strait. Most of the apparent sea level rise on the US East Coast is due to the land sinking, not sea level rising. There has been little or no sea level rise on the West Coast.

This is so wrong it is laughable. The sea level rose hundreds of feet as the last ice age ended - the water that had been locked up in miles-deep ice sheets was release.
He has provided no evidence for his statement about the West Coast.

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here is another source.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...l-warming/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...s-cooling/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Londo...A-and-NOAA





if you say otherwise give me some info.
also we haven't fucked up the planet enough for it to start happening but we can stop fucking it up when we develop alternative fuels and traveling methods etc.

Those are not sources; those are opinions from a fucking lawyer and some youtube dude called 'chimpchimpo'.

Go read a science paper or at least try to.