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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 5:56 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Christian Wrote: Beccs and dyresand.
Then your response doesn't make sense, it's not relevant to anything they are saying.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:00 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Christian Wrote: Beccs and dyresand.
Then your response doesn't make sense, it's not relevant to anything they are saying.
It makes sense. Problem is you are not reading. Learn to read and understand first, Mister!
They asked why God does not show Himself now and my perfect response was that God decided that fate is mandatory for entry into Heaven and revealing himself will be violating free will. Furthermore, Lord Jesus Christ hates signs Himself.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:04 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Then your response doesn't make sense, it's not relevant to anything they are saying.
It makes sense. Problem is you are not reading. Learn to read and understand first, Mister!
They asked why God does not show Himself now and my perfect response was that God decided that fate is mandatory for entry into Heaven and revealing himself will be violating free will. Furthermore, Lord Jesus Christ hates signs Himself.
"Perfect response"
The ego is strong with this one.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Christian Wrote: It makes sense. Problem is you are not reading. Learn to read and understand first, Mister!
They asked why God does not show Himself now and my perfect response was that God decided that fate is mandatory for entry into Heaven and revealing himself will be violating free will. Furthermore, Lord Jesus Christ hates signs Himself.
How exactly is revealing his existence, violation of free will. The devil and all those angels knew with complete certainty that god existed, and yet they rebelled against him, something i'm assuming he didn't want them to do. Please explain that.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: How exactly is revealing his existence, violation of free will. The devil and all those angels knew with complete certainty that god existed, and yet they rebelled against him, something i'm assuming he didn't want them to do. Please explain that.
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
(Proverbs 25:2, NIV)
There's a sense in which mysteries bring glory to God and solving them bring glory to us. It's no accident that so many people enjoy puzzles and riddles or exploration and experimentation, it's just another way in which we reflect the God whose image we are made in.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: How exactly is revealing his existence, violation of free will. The devil and all those angels knew with complete certainty that god existed, and yet they rebelled against him, something i'm assuming he didn't want them to do. Please explain that.
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
(Proverbs 25:2, NIV)
There's a sense in which mysteries bring glory to God and solving them bring glory to us. It's no accident that so many people enjoy puzzles and riddles or exploration and experimentation, it's just another way in which we reflect the God whose image we are made in.
"You shall not pass: - Gandalf LoTR
My quote from a fantasy book is as relevant to you as your quote from a fantasy book is to us.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Beccs Wrote: "You shall not pass: - Gandalf LoTR
My quote from a fantasy book is as relevant to you as your quote from a fantasy book is to us.
OK, that is what you believe. 
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:33 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Beccs Wrote: "You shall not pass: - Gandalf LoTR
My quote from a fantasy book is as relevant to you as your quote from a fantasy book is to us.
OK, that is what you believe.
That's what all current evidence indicates.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:33 pm)Beccs Wrote: That's what all current evidence indicates.
Except that those "evidences" are one sided only, and most are just hypotheses.
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RE: This is the Problem
October 23, 2014 at 6:46 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 6:33 pm)Beccs Wrote: That's what all current evidence indicates.
Except that those "evidences" are one sided only, and most are just hypotheses.
Then let me rephrase that to, the lack of evidence for a deity points to.
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