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Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
#41
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Surely it was harder, but they must have learned. Probably the biggest mystery in any new thing is how the first person figured it out. No one to teach you. You just have to examine it and learn how to control it on your own.

I sometimes wonder who first got the idea of getting milk from a cow, and what he was thinking at the time.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#42
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 28, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Surely it was harder, but they must have learned. Probably the biggest mystery in any new thing is how the first person figured it out. No one to teach you. You just have to examine it and learn how to control it on your own.

I sometimes wonder who first got the idea of getting milk from a cow, and what he was thinking at the time.

That one's easy compared to whoever thought it a good idea to eat a raw oyster.
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#43
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 26, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Christian Wrote: Somebody asked me this question a while ago and this is my answer. It may help others on this forum to know God better.

God graciously allows the Angels to fight the battles with the Devil and his demons. God is omniscient and already knows who will be successful in every battle. If God himself were to oppose Satan it would not be a battle since God is omnipotent.

Or the fact that he's fictional.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#44
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 28, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Chas Wrote:
(October 28, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I sometimes wonder who first got the idea of getting milk from a cow, and what he was thinking at the time.

That one's easy compared to whoever thought it a good idea to eat a raw oyster.

Actually, you're right. The harder question regarding the cow thing is how did the second person find out. And were there pictures involved.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#45
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 26, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Christian Wrote: Somebody asked me this question a while ago and this is my answer. It may help others on this forum to know God better.

God graciously allows the Angels to fight the battles with the Devil and his demons. God is omniscient and already knows who will be successful in every battle. If God himself were to oppose Satan it would not be a battle since God is omnipotent.

IF a god is Omniscient - then it KNEW that the Germans would be successful at MURDERING a huge portion of the Jewish population of Europe - a large percentage of which were INNOCENT children too young to have actually done anything to deserve to be killed - and that would be just ONCE instance since the god Apparently knows about EVERY murder.

And the idea that the god will not oppose satan - is essentially ALLOWING satan to do whatever while the god looks the other way, essentially being just another ALLY to the devil - Just another DEVIL.


AS far as the god being ALMIGHTY - we ALREADY know that cannot be the case if the god is Omniscient. IF the god knows everything =- Past = present - and future - then the only thing that can happen -- is exactly what it knows = and nothing else. So - even the GOD does not have free will - since the ONLY thing the god can do is what it already knows - and it cannot do something it does not know.

So - a god cannot be both Omniscient and Almighty - so the god of the bible cannot actually exist - since the claims contradict themselves and cannot be true at the same time.

Of course - the one thing ALL gods apparently cannot do - is regrow limbs on a human being - something that HAS NEVER happened in the history of man. To claim that in Billions of years - the not a single person who was born without a limb - or lost one for various reasons - was never worthy of having one regrown - simply is not a statistical possibility.
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#46
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
(October 28, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Surely it was harder, but they must have learned. Probably the biggest mystery in any new thing is how the first person figured it out. No one to teach you. You just have to examine it and learn how to control it on your own.

I sometimes wonder who first got the idea of getting milk from a cow, and what he was thinking at the time.

There's always Mohammed's camel milk and camel piss cocktail.

(October 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm)ThomM Wrote:
(October 26, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Christian Wrote: Somebody asked me this question a while ago and this is my answer. It may help others on this forum to know God better.

God graciously allows the Angels to fight the battles with the Devil and his demons. God is omniscient and already knows who will be successful in every battle. If God himself were to oppose Satan it would not be a battle since God is omnipotent.

IF a god is Omniscient - then it KNEW that the Germans would be successful at MURDERING a huge portion of the Jewish population of Europe - a large percentage of which were INNOCENT children too young to have actually done anything to deserve to be killed - and that would be just ONCE instance since the god Apparently knows about EVERY murder.

And the idea that the god will not oppose satan - is essentially ALLOWING satan to do whatever while the god looks the other way, essentially being just another ALLY to the devil - Just another DEVIL.


AS far as the god being ALMIGHTY - we ALREADY know that cannot be the case if the god is Omniscient. IF the god knows everything =- Past = present - and future - then the only thing that can happen -- is exactly what it knows = and nothing else. So - even the GOD does not have free will - since the ONLY thing the god can do is what it already knows - and it cannot do something it does not know.

So - a god cannot be both Omniscient and Almighty - so the god of the bible cannot actually exist - since the claims contradict themselves and cannot be true at the same time.

Of course - the one thing ALL gods apparently cannot do - is regrow limbs on a human being - something that HAS NEVER happened in the history of man. To claim that in Billions of years - the not a single person who was born without a limb - or lost one for various reasons - was never worthy of having one regrown - simply is not a statistical possibility.

The events in WWII were small potatoes. If what happens in Zephaniah 1:2-3 (CEB) happens it will be more newsworthy =
2 I will wipe out everything from the earth, says the Lord.
3 I will destroy humanity and the beasts;
I will destroy the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea.
I will make the wicked into a heap of ruins;
I will eliminate humanity from the earth, says the Lord.
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#47
RE: Why does God use an army to fight, when He Could Do it alone?
lets sum this up god is lazy he rather watch people fight instead of himself.
if he is a lesser god because if were talking about the judo christian god he could
and probably will die in the fight.
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