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8th February 2010, 16:54
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(8th February 2010 16:09)Gilligan Wrote:(6th February 2010 00:08)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:but what do you think should happen to the shooter? No. I'm against littering you jesus-freak asshole! Quote:It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good, but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true. That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is full of such logical imbecilities. - H. L. Mencken |
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8th February 2010, 19:08
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(8th February 2010 16:54)Minimalist Wrote: No. I'm against littering you jesus-freak asshole! Was that really necessary? Best regards,
Leo van Miert "Evolution: Putting the "win"in "Darwin"since 3,500,000,000 BC" "The quest for fire was in all likelihood followed by the desperate, immediate quest for some water." - Onion News |
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8th February 2010, 19:12
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(8th February 2010 16:54)Minimalist Wrote:(8th February 2010 16:09)Gilligan Wrote:(6th February 2010 00:08)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:but what do you think should happen to the shooter? It's a shame a handful of atheists make the rest look bad. |
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8th February 2010, 20:35
(This post was last modified: 8th February 2010 20:40 by Gilligan.)
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(8th February 2010 19:12)Zhalentine Wrote:(8th February 2010 16:54)Minimalist Wrote:(8th February 2010 16:09)Gilligan Wrote:(6th February 2010 00:08)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:but what do you think should happen to the shooter? You make a good point. Is it any wonder Christians stereotype atheists? It is people like Minimalist that foster it. |
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8th February 2010, 22:12
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
Same can be said about any group of people. This is why it's a good idea not to think in terms of stereotypes...
"The argument was not bullshit, it was circular." - Edward, Christian Fundamentalist
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8th February 2010, 23:40
(This post was last modified: 8th February 2010 23:43 by padraic.)
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Quote:Just "a little uneasy" about the shooting? It is said that if you have to explain your jokes,you've failed. I prefer to think it's due to the stupidity of the recipient.  Anyway--A basic element of humour is the incongruous. One method is gross understatement, which I used. Self deprecation is anoth technique,which I also used. NO,I did not analyse what I was going to say,I'm simply deconstructing it after the event. |
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8th February 2010, 23:56
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
Quote:It's a shame a handful of atheists make the rest look bad. Fuck you and your fucking fairy tales. If you want respect for them, go a xtian board. Quote:It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good, but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true. That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is full of such logical imbecilities. - H. L. Mencken |
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9th February 2010, 00:47
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(8th February 2010 19:12)Zhalentine Wrote: It's a shame a handful of atheists make the rest look bad. That is an unfair statement to ever make. No one on this forum actually claims to represent atheists, and even if they did so, it would not be valid until a significant body of atheists verify that claim. That said, it is a form of poisoning the well. Just because some atheist is patently offensive does not ruin what others have to say. Argue that it is simply the way people work, then I have a surprise for you - People are NOT LOGICAL. If they were, one could be offensive and be regarded as offensive with no judgement passed to one's peers. Because you are legitimizing that train of thought for guilt by association with no other context to suggest otherwise, kindly fuck off and die. "You can't turn away from death simply because you're afraid of what might happen without you. That's not enough! You're not embracing life. You're fleeing death! So you're caught in between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you are no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want. When you are no longer looking for reasons to live but can simply be." -- Lorien, Babylon 5
"Its easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?" -- Lorien |
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9th February 2010, 02:37
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(9th February 2010 00:47)Synackaon Wrote:(8th February 2010 19:12)Zhalentine Wrote: It's a shame a handful of atheists make the rest look bad. It doesn't matter if he claims to represent atheists or not, nor does it matter whether or not a significant body of atheists verify the claim. You're just talking out of your ass. I do like your use of strawman though. I never said that people are logical. You're defending a guy who openly supports the killing of innocent civilians and act like a child when people call him out on it, ergo, i can easily see that people are not logical. Show me where I suggested that he ruined what others have to say. |
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9th February 2010, 05:05
(This post was last modified: 9th February 2010 05:06 by Synackaon.)
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RE: Two Street Preachers Shot
(9th February 2010 02:37)Zhalentine Wrote: It doesn't matter if he claims to represent atheists or not, nor does it matter whether or not a significant body of atheists verify the claim. You're just talking out of your ass. I disagree - the very statement you make about one giving others a "bad name" (or anything else, for that matter) implies a form of guilt by association - a thoroughly uncritical and repugnant action to take part in. And that act affects me - hence my actions in this thread. I am not defending Minimalist; I am fighting stupid statements idiots like you perpetuate. I would have hoped that you, in an environment that fosters critical thought, would have grown beyond the simplistic statements that "individual X influences the whole perception of Y" when it is subjective, not logical and usually used as a tool to apply the blame, pejoratives or some negative state of the whole onto the individual. It is unfair to blame Minimalist and a select few for another's opinions and especially for the perception atheists have as a whole. So yes, fuck you. Fuck you for laying unreasonable blame. Fuck you for the implication that one person is responsible for anything other than their own actions. And most of all, fuck you for being such an asshole about that. You could have simply stated your distress at Minimalist's statement. Instead, you attempted to poison the well by blaming Minimalist for the current public's perception of atheism - as if that really affects that which he has said. Indeed I am most irked. "You can't turn away from death simply because you're afraid of what might happen without you. That's not enough! You're not embracing life. You're fleeing death! So you're caught in between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you are no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want. When you are no longer looking for reasons to live but can simply be." -- Lorien, Babylon 5
"Its easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?" -- Lorien |
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