what if your wrong..?

[dyresand]

Think about this for a moment and let it sink in.
What if Lucifer was actually the good guy

Satan
•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.
•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.
•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.
Their is not much known about Satan and his side of the story. Why was God trying to keep knowledge from us? The knowledge of good and evil? With out it we have no choices. No opposites just one path. Maybe God is the deceiver and Satan was trying to expose him. Kind of like how we are trying to expose the powers that be and they are calling us terrorist.

lets see the miss deeds god did.

God
•God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus commiting the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father.
•God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him.
•God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children.
•Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21)
•God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighnor" for worshipping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27)
•God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35)
•God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)
•God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques.
•God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9)
•God kills over 50,000 people for looking at an ark. (1 Samuel 6:19)
•God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14)
•God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)
•And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation)

Isn't god so great killing millions of us taking away our immortality.
Giving us the best present ever original sin because 2 people were told by a lizard snake that its okay to eat the fruit, then have us die of old age. then we are forced to praise him... where as there is nothing really required to praise Satan. because if the Judo christian god is real then he is a lesser god that took someone else hard work and claimed it.

[Aoi Magi]

They are both A-holes, but one far outranks the other.

[dimaniac]

Isn't god so great killing millions of us taking away our immortality.

You are doing the same thing to your children. They were immortal before you created them.

[FatAndFaithless]

They were immortal before you created them.

....What?

[Alex K]

Isn't god so great killing millions of us taking away our immortality.

You are doing the same thing to your children. They were immortal before you created them.

Say what???

[dyresand]

They are both A-holes, but one far outranks the other.

The devil always wanted us to have immortality and be intelligent.
Also this is to this other person god would have to create a soul or look into that soul bank called heaven to grab a person already in there and slap it into a mortal body.

[John V]

Think about this for a moment and let it sink in.
What if Lucifer was actually the good guy

Satan
•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.

Why couldn't we have knowledge of good and evil without eating the fruit?

Eating the fruit was wrong, yet gave knowledge of both evil and good.

Not eating the fruit after Satan's temptation would have been right, and so presumably would have given them knowledge of both good and evil as well.

•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.

Er, read Job.

•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.

I agree with you on this one, but since as noted in Job Satan directly kills and tortures, this point doesn't help his case at all.

•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

Read Revelation. Satan mimics the trinity and kills those who won't worship him: "The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed."

[dyresand]

•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.

Er, read Job.

Job was different god was told by satan that no man would stay faithful under any circumstances god said to do whatever just not to take his life to show that job would have faith. he did and proved satan the liar(not really) he is but
satan is not a lair he knows one day the faithful would appear but not then. an

[Violet]

Job.

You really can't say Satan didn't torture Job, regardless of the circumstances behind the bet.

[Aoi Magi]

They are both A-holes, but one far outranks the other.

The devil always wanted us to have immortality and be intelligent.
Also this is to this other person god would have to create a soul or look into that soul bank called heaven to grab a person already in there and slap it into a mortal body.

Job

They are both A-holes.