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Atheism = Desperation
#31
RE: Atheism = Desperation
Quote:Atheists are desperate from the idea of a merciful beautiful god, who actually gave this universe a law after creating it.


Fuck off.

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#32
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 1, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Atheists are desperate from the idea of a merciful beautiful god, who actually gave this universe a law after creating it.


Fuck off.

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#33
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#34
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 1, 2014 at 5:12 am)AtlasS Wrote: Desperation is very bad. It's not just bad, it's evil actually to see the universe, and just plainly and simply say "this is randomly created".

It defies science. It's a desperate act of utter desperation.
You must have a very malleable and inclusive definition for the word "evil".
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#35
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Also, I'm pretty fucking tired of this "you all believe the universe happened at random?! Herp a derp derp herp!" strawman. Dodgy
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#36
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 1, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Also, I'm pretty fucking tired of this "you all believe the universe happened at random?! Herp a derp derp herp!" strawman. Dodgy

Yeah, I'm with you on that. It especially irks me when the 'random accident' strawman is applied to evolution. Just yesterday, while driving and listening to some Christian radio program (I'm sick that way), they had a segment called Creation Moments, where some dipshit talked about an instance of symbiosis as evidence of God's intelligent design. The upshot was that atheists are irrational to think that it was all an accident. The willful ignorance and/or dishonesty of these creeps never ceases to amaze me.

Passersby might have wondered what was wrong with the obviously disturbed guy in the Toyota, banging on his steering wheel and raging impotently at his windshield.
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#37
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 1, 2014 at 5:12 am)AtlasS Wrote: The concept of observing (which gave birth to the scientific method) is simply about spending time checking the surroundings of a person deeply. Especially the events which take place away from human intervention.

Observing opened up the gates to admit & conclude by every scientist in the world, that our universe is ruled & governed by an invisible law which is not viewable outside the written form of a mathematical equation or a chemical formula.

What? One single law of the universe. Hardly. There are certainly physical laws discovered by science as well as singular facts. But there isn't a single law of the universe.

Quote:Atheists are desperate from the idea of a merciful beautiful god, who actually gave this universe a law after creating it.

Not sure what you mean. Do you think atheists are afraid there might be a god who created the universe and then gave it laws. Well, no, or at least I'm not afraid of such a possibility. Scientific laws do no more than describe how the universe works. It would be really odd to think that the universe was created and then given laws of operation. The universe has clearly operated under physical laws since it's beginning. In fact the laws of physics have formed it.

Quote:Just like a band of cavemen who found an archeological monument, instead of admitting that somebody built it, the cavemen just said "it's randomly built !! nature built it".

Really. I can't imagine such stupid cavemen. Human, or even animal built objects are usually easily identified as such. Naturally grown or created objects look rather different. No one looking a nest things the twigs just fell that way.

Quote:While a Muslim scientist is not desperate at all. There is an entity which made all of this, the signs are there, and an entity that created all of this cannot be lesser than the one & only "god". Allah in Arabic.

Just what would a "Muslim scientist" be if not a Muslim who is also a scientist. If he is a scientist he must be interested in a fact based study of the universe. If not, he's not a scientist.

Muslims holding non scientific world views appear increasingly desperate to square their religious beliefs with science, or to deny scientific truths in order to continue believing in god.

Quote:Desperation is very bad. It's not just bad, it's evil actually to see the universe, and just plainly and simply say "this is randomly created".

It defies science. It's a desperate act of utter desperation.

Desperation is sad. It is stupid to mischaracterize science as showing the world in randomly created. Demonstrating the laws that govern the universe is a demonstration of non-randomness.

Declaring that god did it, or a genie did it, explains nothing absent a proof of the existence of such god or genie. Even then it would be useful to know HOW god did it.
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#38
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 1, 2014 at 10:35 am)AtlasS Wrote: I don't think you understood me. My argument meant "everything is perfect for us to live in here".
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Enjoy you stay in the hole, there's none other like it.

(November 1, 2014 at 10:35 am)AtlasS Wrote: Stimbo

It's the feeling that it's real, stimbo. I know it doesn't satisfy -and sometimes anger- atheists & scientists, but it's that deep feeling that something is different about this. Also called a "hunch"..
We all know that it all stems from within each believer.
Which is why we say you guys pull it out of your asses.
science.... real science... uses hunches as guesses and then tests them. If they're not testable, then scientists are humble and refrain from even attempting to publish their hunches... they're unpublishable... they're worthless.
Your guess, your hunch, your wishful thinking is equally worthless.
That it matches the wishful thinking of others only tells us you bought a story that others sold... you never thought about it for yourself.
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#39
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I am drunk right now, therefore Atheism = alcoholism. QED.


Only part of the above sentence is ironic.
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#40
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(November 1, 2014 at 3:56 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I am drunk right now, therefore Atheism = alcoholism. QED.

I'm working towards being drunk right now.
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