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Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
#11
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
(November 2, 2014 at 6:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The NSA, a U.S. agency responsible for foreign intelligence, this week said it has no record of a call to Huntsville and does not make calls to school systems.

It might just be me but it seems that someone is full of shit.
Remember, in the universe of conspiratorial paranoia, a denial with that form is conclusive evidence that the original claim is true.

It is only in the real world where the more likely alternative is that someone is full of shit.
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#12
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
Guess I should have posted this earlier:


GASP !!! Somebody posted something stupid on Facebook and the authorities noticed !!


I am SHOCKED !!!
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#13
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
Without knowing any further details, it sounds like a great idea - cyber-bullying is a very big problem and needs to be addressed in ways such as this.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#14
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
By making schools into quasi-police functions?

You might want to give that one a little more thought.
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#15
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
If nothing else, it is a favor to the budding crims without the sense to not post such stuff, to point out their failing skill set and put them on the path of making a living from honest toil.

Let's weed out the dumb ones in high school, you're not doing them any favors by letting them proceed to a life of crime when they don't know the first thing about doing it correctly.


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#16
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
(November 3, 2014 at 12:40 am)Minimalist Wrote: By making schools into quasi-police functions?

You might want to give that one a little more thought.
It's absolutely within the rights of the school to discipline students for bullying or violence towards other students that take place outside of the school. Not only is it their right to do so, but protecting students from bullying should be high on their priorities, and monitoring social networks that the kids use is an excellent idea. The parents should be doing this as well of course, but they don't discipline their children for bullying others they just try to protect their own children from the bullying.

Things have changed since I was in school - when I was in primary school I was relentlessly bullied by a student, the student was suspended 4 or 5 times and ultimately expelled from the school. Their parents were not happy at all - mine were. And I think that was in year 3. I think that because on 13 01 1993 my dad died of cancer, so obviously I started year four (in February, that's when when the school year starts in Australia) with no dad. And as heart breaking as it is to remember all the kids had heard about it and were pretty supportive at that time. And now I'm involuntarily tearing up remembering that my dad was 44 years old when he died which is now just 13 years older than I am now. After that time I never had another problem with bullying - just with friends being dicks as kids are from time to time.

In this day and age though more needs to be done - when I was at school bullying took place in the school or on your way to or from the school. I used to cry and refuse to walk home from school. See my brother is two and a half years younger than me, so we were meant to walk home together, but I would flat-out refuse to leave the school - the teacher would say "it's time to go home" and I would say "no I can see him look" - the teacher would see why I wouldn't leave. And to be honest, I don't actually remember the bullying itself. I must have blocked it out. I think he was just really really threatening and intimidating.

On a darker note, a few years prior to this there was a kind named Kentir, 17, and another kid named Grant Cameron (check the link), and they were at the school fate (obviously not students since they were teens). Kentir (that is his real name, although legally I can't tell you his last name, and probably shouldn't be using his first name because he was a minor) was a bully. And at the fate he beat Grant so severely that he died. And many times as a child I would take the time to look at his plaque at the school at the location where he had been beaten (he didn't die there, he died in hospital). The parents were also former members of my former church. Kentir was sentenced, as a minor, to two years for manslaughter (he pleaded guilty), although I have no idea what length of time he actually served and I don't think there's any way of finding out since he was a minor. His parents were not happy with such a short sentence.

At a different school, (Holder) which closed down there was a section in his memory (because he had also been a student there), and when the school was closed it was turned into a community centre called the "Grant Cameron Community Centre" in his memory, now used by ACT Health.

Grant would not have died had he not been bullied by Kentir - who took his bullying to the extreme. In my view what he did amounts to murder, not manslaughter. If you beat someone with callous disregard to their well-being, and they die, with your friends around you watching the event, I don't believe that's manslaughter. If I was one of the parents I would have been furious that they accepted a plea on manslaughter instead of murder. Manslaughter is where you do something stupid, or negligent, or accidental, it's not meant to be for things you did deliberately - e.g. kicking someone in the guts so you rupture internal organs and cause them to die, which is exactly what he did.

So I guess Grant would be 43 today if he were alive, if he hadn't been bullied.

Bullying is, in my view, a VERY serious matter. And I reiterate, any school that goes the extra mile to look out for how students are treated in social media would have my support for doing so.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#17
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
An interesting rant but the original story cited:

Quote:But board member Laurie McCaulley, the only African-American member of the city school board, said expulsions are caused by serious offenses, involving weapons, drugs or sex.

The term "bullying" does not appear in the story.

But for the record I don't agree with you. Schools are supposed to educate. If there is a harassment situation it is for law enforcement to investigate. Not a bunch of school administrators.

In case you forgot this is an example of what school administrators do when you give them a little power.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18...03500.html


Quote:An attorney for an Anne Arundel County 7-year-old suspended from school for nibbling a breakfast pastry into the shape of a pistol is seeking to have the student's record expunged, and said he plans to appeal to Maryland's highest court if necessary.
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#18
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
God I'm an idiot, I misrepresented my late dad's age - he was born in 1944 and died in 1993, he was 48.

(November 3, 2014 at 2:57 am)Minimalist Wrote: But for the record I don't agree with you. Schools are supposed to educate. If there is a harassment situation it is for law enforcement to investigate. Not a bunch of school administrators.
Absolutely not.

Schools are supposed to educate and provide a safe environment for the students, and to protect the students from bullying harassment and abuse. If a suspected criminal offence is committed then it is a matter for law enforcement, but otherwise it is a matter for the school to investigate and act upon.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#19
RE: Big Brother Keeps Getting Bigger.
I'm kinda surprised they got away with it. I've lived most my life in the deep south and as far as I can tell, damn near every politician knows that there are two things they can never question: the Bible and the NRA. For school officials to expell students over guns means something else is up and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if race was the big divider here.

I swear, if you ever want to watch the Republicans (and, consequentially, Alabama) do a complete 360 on their gun policy, just get a large enough group of disenfranchised black people to start a second amendment group to stand up to police (*Cough*Furgeson *Cough*). After all, the only people who need to worry about being persecuted by the state are the people who have never had to worry about that, right?
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