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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 16, 2015 at 2:01 pm
(January 16, 2015 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: I think the real question is how could evolution come up with both sexes before the organism winked out of existence, I used wink because it wouldn't take but the original to die off and the whole process would have been lost. The male and especially the female's reproductive systems are much more complicated than just becoming simply male and female, two totally different reproductive systems that work together must come about simultaneously.
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm
(January 16, 2015 at 2:01 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (January 16, 2015 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: I think the real question is how could evolution come up with both sexes before the organism winked out of existence, I used wink because it wouldn't take but the original to die off and the whole process would have been lost. The male and especially the female's reproductive systems are much more complicated than just becoming simply male and female, two totally different reproductive systems that work together must come about simultaneously.
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Oh, now that explains everything, if you don't know the why answer just admit you do not know.
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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Yeah, GC, because as we all know, both genders must have popped into existence exactly as they are now right from the very start........... 
You're going to have to learn at least a smidge of evolutionary biology before you're even capable of forming a question that isn't absurd on it's very face. That said, we don't ultimately know why gender ended up the way it did, or when, precisely it happened, or under what circumstances. And?
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm
(January 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah, GC, because as we all know, both genders must have popped into existence exactly as they are now right from the very start...........
You're going to have to learn at least a smidge of evolutionary biology before you're even capable of forming a question that isn't absurd on it's very face. That said, we don't ultimately know why gender ended up the way it did, or when, precisely it happened, or under what circumstances. And?
Sounds like my question has stumped you, seems you know very little yourself if one you accuse of not knowing much can stump you. 
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 2:15 pm
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 9:09 pm
(January 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah, GC, because as we all know, both genders must have popped into existence exactly as they are now right from the very start...........
You're going to have to learn at least a smidge of evolutionary biology before you're even capable of forming a question that isn't absurd on it's very face. That said, we don't ultimately know why gender ended up the way it did, or when, precisely it happened, or under what circumstances. And?
Sounds like my question has stumped you, seems you know very little yourself if one you accuse of not knowing much can stump you.
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Oh good grief, *hundreds* of papers have been written about it. They've even run experiments with species that have both sexes and hermaphrodites. And BTW, the male/female thing is mostly for land animals. Lots of ocean fish don't work that way - like ribbon eels or clownfish. Stuff like asynchronous hermaphrodites (animals that are born male then turn female). Not to mention plants, and then fungi, which are + and - instead of M/F. Or you could look here, in wikipedia. There was recently a paper published that showed how primroses that use sexual reproduction don't accumulate harmful mutations.
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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(January 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sounds like my question has stumped you, And? I'm not the one making grand claims to knowledge that I don't possess.
Quote: seems you know very little yourself if one you accuse of not knowing much can stump you.
Yeah, it stumped me but not you, huh - checkmate atheist! You know exactly why..... "cuz Pixies".
Moron.
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 10:04 pm
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(January 17, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (January 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sounds like my question has stumped you, And? I'm not the one making grand claims to knowledge that I don't possess.
I wasn't making any claims of knowledge I do not have, yet you were insinuating you were superior in knowledge, and compared to me you may very well be, in some areas. I stated a question that no ones answered yet.
GC Wrote:seems you know very little yourself if one you accuse of not knowing much can stump you. Quote:Yeah, it stumped me but not you, huh - checkmate atheist! You know exactly why....."cuz Pixies".
Moron.
Now we can see your true intelligence, and your childish maturity.
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 10:07 pm
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You started a question for which no one has an answer and have since failed to realize that there is no importance whatsoever in having done so. It's trivially easy. Why did I mix my whiskey with ginger ale, that you can;t answer means "therefore no god".
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RE: Questions about genders ... male/female
January 17, 2015 at 10:12 pm
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(January 17, 2015 at 9:09 pm)tantric Wrote: (January 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sounds like my question has stumped you, seems you know very little yourself if one you accuse of not knowing much can stump you.
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Oh good grief, *hundreds* of papers have been written about it. They've even run experiments with species that have both sexes and hermaphrodites. And BTW, the male/female thing is mostly for land animals. Lots of ocean fish don't work that way - like ribbon eels or clownfish. Stuff like asynchronous hermaphrodites (animals that are born male then turn female). Not to mention plants, and then fungi, which are + and - instead of M/F. Or you could look here, in wikipedia. There was recently a paper published that showed how primroses that use sexual reproduction don't accumulate harmful mutations.
First off most fish are either male or female, whether they live in salt or fresh water. Secondly I of know of the strange nature of reproduction with some animals, but the real question remains sexual reproduction is complicated and the two sexes would have to evolve at the same exact time in all their complicated needs or poof.
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(January 17, 2015 at 10:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You started a question for which no one has an answer and have since failed to realize that there is no importance whatsoever in having done so. It's trivially easy. Why did I mix my whiskey with ginger ale, that you can;t answer means "therefore no god".
Now you're just being stupid or you've had to much to drink.
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