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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm
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We aren't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_suicide
This place is hostile, that instinct for survival is part of the job description?
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Quote:For eons and eons of evolution no organism experienced an existential decision.
And it has been all downhill since.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:48 pm
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(November 9, 2014 at 9:42 pm)LostDays Wrote: But why... and why do human beings seem to be the only living organism that contemplates suicide?
Good for you, I am really glad you are able to walk through life and never question why... I would seriously love to not have to constantly ask that question... must be nice.
There are a lot of individuals out there who struggle with this very question. Look outside yourself for a moment?
But I do ask myself that question a lot. And I've also answered it.
Re-read my post.
"Why? There is no reason."
Nature is merely a process, and to ask "Why?" and trying to get some sort of philosophical answer is only going to result in getting a lot of BS.
Evolution is a process. There's no philosophy involved, only a mathematical inevitability.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:49 pm
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(November 9, 2014 at 9:44 pm)LostDays Wrote: But WHY?! What is so fucking great about surviving anyways?! If you are human being who cultivates a good life for themselves then you would probably never ask the question... but what about those who don't? Or all other animals? I'm just gonna try really hard to survive, even though I don't know why...........
Listen to me, dude. I'm in the shit right now. I haven't got any money to speak off, most of my family has died off, my job is more than insecure, I have debts and I nearly got no friends to turn to. And to top it off, I've got no relationship.
Do I want to live? I don't know. Sometimes I think, it doesn't matter.
So do I contemplate suicide. No. Because I don't know what's behind the next corner. I'm 51 years old right now and sometimes it seems to me, these years have gone by in a flash. So I can wait till my natural date arrives.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:53 pm
So to those educated enough to understand that people who feel suicidal are NOT weak OR pathetic... What is stopping these people from ending their lives??? Why do ANYTHING? Is what I get asked of me....
It's a stupid question if you decide to make it one.
I don't think the people asking me these questions are stupid... I think it's an honest response to really horrible things happening in life... Good grief!!!
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2014 at 9:54 pm by PerfectRecall17.)
(November 9, 2014 at 9:42 pm)LostDays Wrote: There are a lot of individuals out there who struggle with this very question. Look outside yourself for a moment?
I also take offense to this comment.
I'm looking outside of myself when I'm discussing evolution and how there's no inherent philosophical point to life. Instead of freaking out about this, please look outside of yourself.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:54 pm
(November 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Because not having a strong urge to survive leads to death, leaving the ones who do to spread their genes. That seems like a really stupid question. Why wouldn't we have an urge to survive? Hell just eating is one of the most enjoyable things I get out of life. I wish I could do it all the time without turning into a beach ball. I wish I could live purely off of sweets. Eating is awesome!
I hope if you ever run into severe mental health issues that you get someone to say this to you! 
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(November 9, 2014 at 9:53 pm)LostDays Wrote: So to those educated enough to understand that people who feel suicidal are NOT weak OR pathetic... What is stopping these people from ending their lives??? Why do ANYTHING? Is what I get asked of me....
It's a stupid question if you decide to make it one.
I don't think the people asking me these questions are stupid... I think it's an honest response to really horrible things happening in life... Good grief!!!
Read my above post.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm
Quote:Note how that while most of us realize that it's all pointless, we go on living our lives anyway.
Look outside yourself in the sense that NOT EVERYONE THINKS THAT WAY... I'm talking about individuals who do not have that mind set... thus... step outside of yourself... You only take offense if you choose to lol.
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RE: Why the instinct to survive?
November 9, 2014 at 9:57 pm
(November 9, 2014 at 9:53 pm)LostDays Wrote: So to those educated enough to understand that people who feel suicidal are NOT weak OR pathetic... What is stopping these people from ending their lives??? Why do ANYTHING? Is what I get asked of me....
It's a stupid question if you decide to make it one.
I don't think the people asking me these questions are stupid... I think it's an honest response to really horrible things happening in life... Good grief!!!
What's stopping them? Most likely evolution.
People who don't have the inherent will to live die out. So it's our genes that give us a healthy fear of dying.
So what's stopping them from ending their lives? The inability to kill themselves, because of their evolution.
If they're flawed enough to end themselves, their genes won't pass on.
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