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Unicorns???
#21
RE: Unicorns???
(November 30, 2014 at 10:47 am)simplemoss Wrote: I just learned that there are several bible verses that mention unicorns?

Yeah so what the fuck???

The bible is literally a bumper book of fantasy.
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#22
RE: Unicorns???
(November 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm)Beccs Wrote: The bible is literally a bumper book of fantasy.

Bad trip on LSD might be more fitting. Fantasy usually has some morals in it.

Oh, and happy birthday. Must be one of these last two days, isn't it.
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#23
RE: Unicorns???
(November 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm)Beccs Wrote: The bible is literally a bumper book of fantasy.

Bad trip on LSD might be more fitting. Fantasy usually has some morals in it.

Oh, and happy birthday. Must be one of these last two days, isn't it.

Thank you.

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#24
RE: Unicorns???
Unicorns really are a translation problem.




Saytrs are more interesting because they are translated "goat demons" in the NRSV:

Quote:But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there, and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.
Isaiah 13:21 KJV

Quote:The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.
Isaiah 34:14 KJV

Quote:But wild animals will lie down there,
and its houses will be full of howling creatures;
there ostriches will live,
and there goat-demons will dance.
Isaiah 13:21 NRSV

Quote:Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,
goat-demons shall call to each other;
there too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest.
34:14 NRSV

Night demons pops up here and there too as an alternative to goat demon. That makes it better right?

Some other translations just use "wild goats."

The Hebrew word is sa’ir.

Quote:It is related to the term se’ar (“hair”), which means a “hairy one.” Mostly the word is used of the male goat that was employed as a sin-offering — especially that solemn sin-offering of the day of atonement (Lev. 16).
https://www.christiancourier.com/article...-the-bible

It's translated variously elsewhere in the Bible:

Quote:Twice the term is rendered “demon” (Lev. 17:7; 2 Chron. 11:15 — KJV), where it actually signifies a pagan god that takes the form of a goat (see ESV — 2 Chron. 11:15).
https://www.christiancourier.com/article...-the-bible

Satyr is a translation error, but the demon goats, not so much. So about those pagan demon goats? Are there other gods, or demons?
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#25
RE: Unicorns???
Ok so what ur saying Jenny a, is that its all just mistranslation
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#26
RE: Unicorns???
(December 1, 2014 at 10:03 am)simplemoss Wrote: Ok so what ur saying Jenny a, is that its all just mistranslation

if its one thing i learned about translation its not a easy job and people tend to swap out words that are nearly identical when they don't have a word that is close to that meaning. the bible is so badly mistranslated that there is so many sects of Christianity non of them following the direct text because well it wasn't translated properly to begin with.
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#27
RE: Unicorns???
(December 1, 2014 at 10:03 am)simplemoss Wrote: Ok so what ur saying Jenny a, is that its all just mistranslation

Unicorns are a mistranslation of wild ox. Satyrs are a mistranslation of something we really don't have a word for: demon goat, goat demon, pagan demon god, possessed goat. Take your pick.

In any case, those still clinging to the King James Version are stuck with the unicorns and the satyrs.
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#28
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That makes no sense??? when was the word "wild ox" created and why wasn't the Bible AUTOMATICALLY changed too reflect that?
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#29
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Translations can be VERY difficult.

If he put his hat on his head.

How many people are there and who is wearing the hat?
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#30
RE: Unicorns???
(December 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm)IATIA Wrote: Translations can be VERY difficult.

If he put his hat on his head.

How many people are there and who is wearing the hat?

And translations of ancient languages are harder.
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