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Janay Rice and God's Plan
#31
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
(December 1, 2014 at 10:25 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Actaully, I volunteer as part of a domestic violence response team, and I've not once seen a situation where blacks were treated any differently from whites.

I'm not even trying to correct you; racism IS a problem. This scenario has nothing to do with race, though. It has to do with a man violently beating his girlfriend.

Also, please don't talk to me that way. I have never been anything other than respectful to you.

Great, but if you think your POV is a nationwide norm you'd be wrong. Instead of looking only in your own backyard, like climate change deniers, if you are in a better position to spread what you say works for where you live, then still, work on that. But because you say you don't see it does not mean it is not a problem elsewhere.

FYI, just so you know I do not use the word "respect" I hate that word. I value rights, I value your right to make whatever claim you want. But ideas do not get taboo status by themselves.

Instead of having a kneejerk reaction to my world choice, consider that it is not you I am objecting to, but the logic behind what you are saying.

I will value a claim that is demonstrable and adapt that position because it is proven.

Race is an issue regardless of your sample rate. If it were not an issue history would not keep repeating itself.
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#32
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
Holy crap! I never said racism wasn't a problem!

I Wrote:I'm not even trying to correct you; racism IS a problem. This scenario has nothing to do with race, though. It has to do with a man violently beating his girlfriend.

That was in the post of mine you just quoted. What the hell???
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#33
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
(December 1, 2014 at 10:44 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Holy crap! I never said racism wasn't a problem!

I Wrote:I'm not even trying to correct you; racism IS a problem. This scenario has nothing to do with race, though. It has to do with a man violently beating his girlfriend.

That was in the post of mine you just quoted. What the hell???

Yes it does and blowing off the article stating the women may not have been telling the truth is saying to me you have a social conditioning that you may not be aware of.

Good, you say race is a problem. GREAT, that is a great thing to admit.

Again what you are failing to see that race touches even this event. It would be great if we could make it just about Ray. But you are wrong in thinking that.

This isn't about having a video or not having a video. This is about how whites judge blacks much harsher guilty or innocent.

Humans do not commit more or less crimes ratio wise worldwide. Humans do judge each other as majorities and minorities worldwide. You do not get to understand the totality of it and get to that understanding by not first accepting like you just did that it is a problem.

The reaction to Obama's election, a man with a law degree. Has been treated worse than any other president I have seen in my 48 years.

All of these individual events guilty or innocent, that show blacks accused or convicted long term set a narrative that Americans cant seem to shake.
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#34
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You know what, Brian? I'm not the fucking problem here. Quit treating me like I am. If you want a thread about racism, start one. This one is about Janay Rice and "god's plan".
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#35
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
(December 1, 2014 at 10:59 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: You know what, Brian? I'm not the fucking problem here. Quit treating me like I am. If you want a thread about racism, start one. This one is about Janay Rice and "god's plan".

"I am not the fucking problem here"

That is part of the problem right there. No one was accusing you of being a bigot yourself. But the fact that you respond like that says you are not aware of a bigger picture.
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#36
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
You don't know anything about me. Kindly fuck off. I've defended you in the past, but your histrionics are too much.
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#37
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
i see the problem with ray rice wife in the relationship she loves the guy and he has money.
she probably thinks she make him turn into a better guy but in reality no. guys don't change and if they do its a hard
and really long change for that kind of abuser. it will be hard for her to leave but its a good thing for her to think about leaving
as one incident like that will follow up with another abuse is a vicious cycle. She has to leave take his money with her she deserves it.
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#38
RE: Janay Rice and God's Plan
(December 1, 2014 at 10:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I just gave you a link to an article of two white players accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault. While it was reported, the tone of the reporting is different and eventually those players were never charged.

Maybe because there wasn't enough evidence? Jees! Have you always been this crazy or is this a recent development?


(December 1, 2014 at 10:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Again no shit........But again, how many cops show up to domestic disputes or get accusations of sexual assault on whites, that do not have video and never go past a police report.

I don't know and you don't know either.

(December 1, 2014 at 10:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There were no videos of me and my friends when we were drunk and high as teens smashing cars. There was no video of the party in my basement where we were drunk and where a girl got beaten up. Cops never showed up.

And again, your personal experiences of being a juvenile delinquent trumps any evidence, logic or reasoning?

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes it does

How?

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: and blowing off the article stating the women may not have been telling the truth is saying to me you have a social conditioning that you may not be aware of.

God, you're a condecending ass.

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Again what you are failing to see that race touches even this event. It would be great if we could make it just about Ray. But you are wrong in thinking that.

You want to get rid of racism? Stop talking about it, stop involving it where it clearly isn't neccessary, stop creating a culture of victims

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This isn't about having a video or not having a video. This is about how whites judge blacks much harsher guilty or innocent.

But there aren't any charges being pressed. And yea, citation needed for that claim.

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Humans do not commit more or less crimes ratio wise worldwide.

I don't even know what this means. But crime rates do differ across the globe if that's what you're saying.

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The reaction to Obama's election, a man with a law degree. Has been treated worse than any other president I have seen in my 48 years.

Yea it was soooooooooooooo bad, riots in the streets and everything.....oh wait.

(December 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: All of these individual events guilty or innocent, that show blacks accused or convicted long term set a narrative that Americans cant seem to shake.

Yea we should just stop accusing black people of breaking the law, i mean, they are almost always innocent, right?

(December 1, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That is part of the problem right there. No one was accusing you of being a bigot yourself. But the fact that you respond like that says you are not aware of a bigger picture.

You were! You were accusing her of being a biggot! You didn't say those words but we know what you meant. How you assumed, up until she stated otherwise, that she didn't think racism was a problem. What the hell is wrong with you? have you stopped taking meds or something?
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