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Damned Christians
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Evangelicals did it again. Winter Solstice is coming and they made a list where you shouldn’t be shopping this year because some stores dare use the phrase “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”
http://lc.org/1116162016%20NaughtyorNiceList.pdf
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(November 17, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Evangelicals did it again. Winter Solstice is coming and they made a list where you shouldn’t be shopping this year because some stores dare use the phrase “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”
http://lc.org/1116162016%20NaughtyorNiceList.pdf

The War on Christmas starts earlier every year.

*edit* Radio Shack? Where the hell do they even find a Radio Shack these days?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Damned Christians
Quote:As Donald Trump waged a white nationalist campaign, Christian voters were left questioning how to vote. Christians, particularly evangelical Christians, lean toward the Republican Party. On Election Day, preliminary data available from Pew Research shows that 81 percent of evangelicals voted for Mr. Trump. Now Christians have to struggle with the question of what it means to have entrusted the country to a misogynist businessman who courted the alt-right with racist rhetoric aimed at Latinos and African-Americans (not to mention bigoted words directed to people of faith outside the Christian tradition). Is it a fair question to ask if Christians are racist based on the election results?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/are-...04ef59ec71
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Damned Christians
Quote:Now Christians have to struggle with the question of what it means to have entrusted the country to a misogynist businessman who courted the alt-right with racist rhetoric aimed at Latinos and African-Americans

No problem for the hypocritical fucktards at all.
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Trump is also an open and notorious adulterer.

As are Rudy Giuliani and David Petraeus and Newt Gingrich, all frequently mentioned as serving in the Trump administration.


I'd think there would be more than a few Christians wondering how to explain this sort of thing to children, but maybe they're OK with it ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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oops wrong thread.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(November 18, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
Quote:As Donald Trump waged a white nationalist campaign, Christian voters were left questioning how to vote. Christians, particularly evangelical Christians, lean toward the Republican Party. On Election Day, preliminary data available from Pew Research shows that 81 percent of evangelicals voted for Mr. Trump. Now Christians have to struggle with the question of what it means to have entrusted the country to a misogynist businessman who courted the alt-right with racist rhetoric aimed at Latinos and African-Americans (not to mention bigoted words directed to people of faith outside the Christian tradition). Is it a fair question to ask if Christians are racist based on the election results?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/are-...04ef59ec71

They'll just explain it as "Hillary something something email something something Benghazi!"
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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(November 18, 2016 at 8:36 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Trump is also an open and notorious adulterer.

As are Rudy Giuliani and David Petraeus and Newt Gingrich, all frequently mentioned as serving in the Trump administration.


I'd think there would be more than a few Christians wondering how to explain this sort of thing to children, but maybe they're OK with it ?

They're OK with it as long as it was heterosexual.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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I found an interesting piece about "Vile Quotes Against Women By Church Leaders from St. Augustine to Pat Robertson"

Catholics

Woman is a temple built over a sewer. –Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity” (c160-225)

[Women’s] very consciousness of their own nature must evoke feelings of shame.–Saint Clement of Alexandria, Christian theologian (c150-215): Pedagogues II, 33, 2

Nor are the women to smear their faces with the ensnaring devices of wily cunning. . . The Instructor [Christ] orders them to go forth “in becoming apparel, and adorn themselves with shamefacedness and sobriety, subject to their own husbands.”  –Saint Clement of Alexandria, Christian theologian (c150-215): The Instructor

In pain shall you bring forth children, woman, and you shall turn to your husband and he shall rule over you. And do you not know that you are Eve? God’s sentence hangs still over all your sex and His punishment weighs down upon you. You are the devil’s gateway; you are she who first violated the forbidden tree and broke the law of God. It was you who coaxed your way around him whom the devil had not the force to attack. With what ease you shattered that image of God: Man! Because of the death you merited, even the Son of God had to die… Woman, you are the gate to hell. –Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity” (c160-225): On the Apparel of Women, chapter 1

For it is improper for a woman to speak in an assembly, no matter what she says,
even if she says admirable things, or even saintly things, that is of little
consequence, since they come from the mouth of a woman. –Origen (d. 258): Fragments on First Corinthians, 74

Woman does not possess the image of God in herself but only when taken together
with the male who is her head, so that the whole substance is one image. But
when she is assigned the role as helpmate, a function that pertains to her
alone, then she is not the image of God. But as far as the man is concerned, he
is by himself alone the image of God just as fully and completely as when he and
the woman are joined together into one. –Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo Regius (354-430)

What is the difference whether it is in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman… I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children. –Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo Regius (354 – 430): De genesi ad litteram, 9, 5-9

Woman is a misbegotten man and has a faulty and defective nature in comparison to his. Therefore she is unsure in herself. What she cannot get, she seeks to obtain through lying and diabolical deceptions. And so, to put it briefly, one must be on one’s guard with every woman, as if she were a poisonous snake and the horned devil. … Thus in evil and perverse doings woman is cleverer, that is, slyer, than man. Her feelings drive woman toward every evil, just as reason impels man toward all good. –Saint Albertus Magnus, Dominican theologian, 13th century: Quaestiones super de animalibus XV q. 11

As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active force in the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of woman comes from a defect in the active force or from some material indisposition, or even from some external influence. –Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church, 13th century: Summa Theologica I q. 92 a. 1

***Protestant Reformers***

The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes. –Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Works 12.94

No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise. –Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546)
Men have broad and large chests, and small narrow hips, and more understanding than women, who have but small and narrow breasts, and broad hips, to the end they should remain at home, sit still, keep house, and bear and bring up children. –Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Table Talk

Thus the woman, who had perversely exceeded her proper bounds, is forced back to her own position. She had, indeed, previously been subject to her husband, but that was a liberal and gentle subjection; now, however, she is cast into servitude. –John Calvin, Reformer (1509-1564): Commentary on Genesis, p. 172.

Do not any longer contend for mastery, for power, money, or praise. Be content to be a private, insignificant person, known and loved by God and me. . . .  of what importance is your character to mankind, if you was buried just now Or if you had never lived, what loss would it be to the cause of God. –John Wesley, founder of Methodist movement (1703-1791): letter to his wife, July 15, 1774

***American Patriarchs (Puritan, Mormon, Baptist, Evangelical)***

Even as the church must fear Christ Jesus, so must the wives also fear their husbands. And this inward fear must be shewed by an outward meekness and lowliness in her speeches and carriage to her husband. . . . For if there be not fear and reverence in the inferior, there can be no sound nor constant honor yielded to the superior. –John Dod: A Plaine and Familiar Exposition of the Ten Commandements, Puritan guidebook first published in 1603

The second duty of the wife is constant obedience and subjection. –John Dod: A Plaine and Familiar Exposition of the Ten Commandements, Puritan guidebook first published in 1603
The root of masculine is stronger, and of feminine weaker. The sun is a governing planet to certain planets, while the moon borrows her light from the sun, and is less or weaker. –Joseph Smith, founder of LDS movement (1805-1844): History of the Church, V, p. 211

Women are made to be led, and counseled, and directed. . . . And if I am not a good man, I have no just right in this Church to a wife or wives, or the power to propagate my species. What then should be done with me? Make a eunuch of me, and stop my propagation. –Heber C. Kimball, venerated early LDS apostle (1801-1868): JD 5:29

A wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband, even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. –Official Faith and Message Statement of Southern Baptist Convention, Summer 1998, (15.7 million members)

The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians. — Pat Robertson, Southern Baptist leader (1930-): fundraising letter July 1992

The Holiness of God is not evidenced in women when they are brash, brassy, boisterous, brazen, head-strong, strong-willed, loud-mouthed, overly-talkative, having to have the last word, challenging, controlling, manipulative, critical, conceited, arrogant, aggressive, assertive, strident, interruptive, undisciplined, insubordinate, disruptive, dominating, domineering, or clamoring for power. Rather, women accept God’s holy order and character by being humbly and unobtrusively respectful and receptive in functional subordination to God, church leadership, and husbands. –James Fowler: Women in the Church, 1999.

Women will be saved by going back to that role that God has chosen for them. Ladies, if the hair on the back of your neck stands up it is because you are fighting your role in the scripture. –Mark Driscoll, founder of Mars Hill nondenominational mega-church franchise. (1970-), sermon 2008?
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You can always tell the men with tiny little dick syndrome.  Its the dead giveaway with the WLB.
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