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Critical thinker, skeptical about atheism.
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 (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: I have a nagging skepticism about atheism since it leaves unexplained the most basic questions of our existence and the existence of all things. Yes, it leaves all these questions open. Isn't that great? I don't need some god to fill in the gaps and rather embark on my own journey through life. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
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December 19, 2014 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2014 at 10:10 am by Elskidor.)
Oh, another one of these. No thanks.
@Antiky
I'd like to add that religion does not really answer these questions either, it merely acts like it does while tricking you into stopping to ask. Where does everything come from, what's up with morals - religion does not answer them.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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December 19, 2014 at 10:42 am
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(December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: I have a nagging skepticism about atheism since it leaves unexplained the most basic questions of our existence and the existence of all things. oh the pure irony of this post.. OP why you do this... ill answer these for you. (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: Q- Where does the Universe come from? on the contrary your just saying what you want to say we know where the universe came from. we don't need a faerie tail to explain the natural world nature is nature. the universe exists because of the big bang whats so hard to understand go watch some youtube videos on it. (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: Q Why are we here? you would say god put us here but the world isn't exactly six thousand years old. so we are here because we are lucky and that earth at a time supported life not anything complex but something so non complex such as single celled organism over a large period of time does wonders and evolves. - so we do know we need to go deeper in further in to figure out how though but we do know that we as living beings are all related due to common ancestors. (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: Q Is there any meaning to life? well actually a belief in god is a delusion so whats your point. don't try to pick a fight with atheists okay since your own bible is a pretty horrific thing and the being you worship is really shitty. And guess what life has no meaning you have to make one up otherwise your going to be wondering around hopelessly looking for that answer which is redundant. (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: Q Is there good and evil? do you realize you just lost your own argument most people in jail that are "evil" believe in god and are christians and other types of religious people. there is hardly atheists in jail because we know not to fuck up or break the law. so to answer your question is there good and evil. No its just a matter of opinion. doing any good that causes harm in the eyes of another person would seem bad but not evil. you can't be truly evil or truly good either. you can be a good person and do some horrible things and or be a terrible person and do some good things. - don't assume our answers it makes you look like a ass.
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Stephen Hawkins "A God is not required"
Do you need Thor to explain lightening? Do you need the ocean god Poseidon to explain hurricanes? There is no magical super hero that produced "all this" like a factory boss making a product. We do not need old claims of magic men to explain reality. Whatever we do not currently know does not need human projections of wishful thinking to fill in those gaps.  (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: I have a nagging skepticism about atheism since it leaves unexplained the most basic questions of our existence and the existence of all things. Does it matter to you if the answers to those questions are correct? Or is it just super important to have an answer, any answer, no matter what? ![[Image: Ab8pabA.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=wp.production.patheos.com%2Fblogs%2Fwwjtd%2Ffiles%2F2014%2F12%2FAb8pabA.png) Quote:Q- Where does the Universe come from? We don't know. What's so dogmatic about acknowledging that? You understand that the moment we find out the answer, we'll stop answering that we don't know, right? That's, you know, the opposite of dogmatism. Quote:Q Why are we here? Actually, we do know that one, so your concept of atheism is simply factually wrong. We're here because we evolved as a species, from other organisms, over time. Quote:Q Is there any meaning to life? Are all mental constructs delusions? Language is a mental construct, it's something made up. So are numbers, and time demarcations, and thought exercises. Are all those things delusions too? Are we all delusionally dreaming of numbers to quantify things? Or can we all just acknowledge that there are more categories of things in our brains than delusions?  Quote:Q Is there good and evil? And Dawkins isn't atheism. I'm an atheist who happens to believe in good and evil as acts but not attributes attached to individuals. Every question you ask, in your quest to show atheism's unsatisfactory dogmatism, just shows how little you understand of what you're talking about. Quote:Why then do we put "evil" people in jails? ("evil" is a religious word) Firstly, you don't get to claim ownership over words. Second, you don't get to poison the well by defining what a truly honest answer to this question is. Now that that's out of the way, we put people in jail in part as atonement for the harm they have caused their community, and in part to rehabilitate them out of committing similar acts in future, either through education, or the deterrent of further punishment. So, yet another thing we do know, if one gives it a little thought. Quote:There are so many questions Ive asked atheists over the years, and their answers just seem illogical, and leave me even more skeptical about atheism. So, because atheism is intellectually honest enough to admit when we don't know something, and you find the idea of not knowing unsatisfying, therefore atheism can't be true? It's amazing: you're talking about honest admissions of ignorance, but you've made one of the biggest arguments from ignorance yourself that I've ever seen.
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December 19, 2014 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2014 at 6:45 pm by Antikytherian95.)
Thank you for the replies, I'm in a different timezone so was asleep as 4 pages of posts popped up in this thread, obviously I won't be able to address each post since it would be prohibitively time consuming.
Some of the replies are quite thoughtful and I thank you for that, at the end of the day we all have a desire for fulfillment in this life, and I believe that's why atheism is such a minority belief system in our world, it leaves one empty, because it has no answers for the most basic questions, and who wants to live an Empty existence, wondering what the point of getting up in the morning is, if one lives a meaningless life that ends in a hole in the ground, some will say, "There is no meaning to life, but you can just use your imagination to make one up", but thats living a delusion. And so we will always have religion it seems to me, since the alternative is a despair, even if its veiled in a kind of "positive denial", that everything is OK with the world, despite it being completely meaningless and empty, seems like an oxymoron to me. Oh and a little off topic, amazing inexplicable phenomena in this world, backed up by incredible discoveries in Paranormal Psychology, certainly reinforce the validity of religion as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eg9qY_7qvg  (December 19, 2014 at 7:06 am)Antikytherian95 Wrote: I have a nagging skepticism about atheism since it leaves unexplained the most basic questions of our existence and the existence of all things. Yes. Two. Quote:The agnostic does not simply say, "l do not know." He goes another step, and he says, with great emphasis, that you do not know. He insists that you are trading on the ignorance of others, and on the fear of others. He is not satisfied with saying that you do not know, -- he demonstrates that you do not know, and he drives you from the field of fact -- he drives you from the realm of reason -- he drives you from the light, into the darkness of conjecture -- into the world of dreams and shadows, and he compels you to say, at last, that your faith has no foundation in fact. Quote:For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. |
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