“The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam

[FatAndFaithless]

They aren't random: each mutation is set on a scaffold of those that came before, and the environment in which that mutation takes place. Those mutations that persist are the ones that gel with the previous mutations in other generations, and with the environment. That's a set of conditions, meaning the mutations aren't purely random.


Not random, and not unguided either; natural selection is the guide.

I think you are abusing the word mutation, and next you will forced to tell us that the Hackney is a mutation of the Belgium horse as we know them today. There is such a thing as selective breeding that can be done by design as seen from the outside.

You...do know what selected breeding is, yes? It's breeding that selects for a specific mutation, which arises randomly, to increase the chance that that mutation propogates into an organism's offspring.

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You should also not confuse mutation with adaptation that is just opposite to mutation as interior caused. The best mutation I know is where the red potato is an eye mutant of the white potato and that happened not that long ago.

Please define mutation and adaptation. I doubt you know either.

[Esquilax]

I think you are abusing the word mutation, and next you will forced to tell us that the Hackney is a mutation of the Belgium horse as we know them today. There is such a thing as selective breeding that can be done by design as seen from the outside.

How, exactly, do you think selective breeding works, if you don't think mutation is the mechanism? What actually happens, in your idea of selective breeding, to differentiate it from nothing at all?

[Chili]

I think you are abusing the word mutation, and next you will forced to tell us that the Hackney is a mutation of the Belgium horse as we know them today. There is such a thing as selective breeding that can be done by design as seen from the outside.

You...do know what selected breeding is, yes? It's breeding that selects for a specific mutation, which arises randomly, to increase the chance that that mutation propogates into an organism's offspring.

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You should also not confuse mutation with adaptation that is just opposite to mutation as interior caused. The best mutation I know is where the red potato is an eye mutant of the white potato and that happened not that long ago.

Please define mutation and adaptation. I doubt you know either.

Ok, so now you say all is mutation and there is no such thing as adaptation.

As I see the difference mutation is DNA only and not RNA caused. This would be why the red potato was an eye mutant as obviously different from the other white potato's of that same plant.

That is why it is called mutation as different from design in which the essence as potato remained just the same. A mutation as a mutation is obviously different and does follow the RNA input for design, from which it can be said that you are what you eat and eat what you are.

Of course in Hollywood anything is possible, and that maybe is why Shirley Maclean in her Past Lives Pavilion was a said the be a gorilla at one time? Not sure what is was, I forgot, but something that is not possible for sure. This where she wanted to explain the transmigration of souls and lost it a bit.

Anyway, adaptation is the reason why we have a conscious and subconscious mind so that we can be temporal with presence in the place where we live, and bloom where we are planted from the genus in us, from where likes will be just like us as created to be.

[FatAndFaithless]

You...do know what selected breeding is, yes? It's breeding that selects for a specific mutation, which arises randomly, to increase the chance that that mutation propogates into an organism's offspring.

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Please define mutation and adaptation. I doubt you know either.

Ok, so now you say all is mutation and there is no such thing as adaptation.

No. I'm not even going to address anything further in your rambling, incoherent post. I never said that, and nobody here has.

I'm asking you to provide a definition of mutation, and a definition of adaptation.

Simple question, please answer directly without any sort of fluffy pseudospiritual bullshit.

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure do hope we're not looking at a shit and run.

[Losty]

Sure do hope we're not looking at a shit and run.

I don't know. The less often Harris crams my internet with his endless posts the better in my opinion.

[The Grand Nudger]

I doubt Harris' post is quite that large, and what are you doing letting him cram it in your interwebs anway?

[Chili]

I think you are abusing the word mutation, and next you will forced to tell us that the Hackney is a mutation of the Belgium horse as we know them today. There is such a thing as selective breeding that can be done by design as seen from the outside.

How, exactly, do you think selective breeding works, if you don't think mutation is the mechanism? What actually happens, in your idea of selective breeding, to differentiate it from nothing at all?

Selective breeding is where desired qualities are identified first. So the ideal exists in the mind of the breeder before he selects the best representation he finds for his breeding program.

The same is true with plants in which a breeding program often takes place in confined spaces as patent right adds ownership to this. From there seeds are taken and selective often replicated trials are done to find the best performers within.

So here now we have selection in addition to selective breeding to reach distinction pertaining only to a desired quality, just yet. This so is still far removed from a mutation that has its own non-cause to be.

[Losty]

I doubt Harris' post is quite that large, and what are you doing letting him cram it in your interwebs anway?

Well...Vosur is sleeping and I got lonely

[The Grand Nudger]

-what is the mechanic by which all of this is achieved?

-where do those "representations" source the trait that the breeder is selecting for?

-what is being patented?

-did you plan on answering the question you quoted at some point in the future?

Are you implying, in that last post, that the breeder -thinks really hard about it-....and on the brute force of that thought, it happens? Shit....I've been doing this all wrong, no wonder my costs are through the roof.