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UK says atheists more moral than theists
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UK says atheists more moral than theists
Not sure if this has been on here already, but I thought this was really interesting. It's staggering even to me, living in England. Apparently a survey of Brits put atheists ahead of theists in moral estimation. Also some other brilliant statistics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
How much does it cost to move to a different country?
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
Well its true
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
(January 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How much does it cost to move to a different country?

At least the language is...similar.
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
Fewer than 25% believe that religion is a force for good?

About 20% of the people who describe themselves as "Very Religious" believe that religion is harmful to society?

Very skeptical about this survey. Sample size, who did they ask, what were the questions asked and who interpreted the data?
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
(January 19, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(January 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How much does it cost to move to a different country?

At least the language is...similar.

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Yeah. Similar.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
This doesn't surprise me all that much. I'm amazed at how Christian America is, the UK is totally different. The Bible Belt in America strikes me as something out of a horror film, rather than something that could exist in a first world country. Although we have a cultural Christian background, for most people this just involves weddings and funerals in a Church. I'd be quite happy to tell anyone I was an Atheist, be it at work or in social situations and no one would bat an eyelid. It's not considered polite to mock religion in front of believers, but that's about it.

Christians here tend not to tell people as they are a bit embarrassed about their beliefs. Crucially they also don't tend to think of non Christians as any less moral.

If you talk about religion critically here, people would probably assume you were talking about Islam.

If you don't indocrinate people they don't become Christians. If you don't tell them that non Christians are evil, then everyone gets along ( and over time Christian numbers will fall).
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
(January 19, 2015 at 6:00 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Fewer than 25% believe that religion is a force for good?

About 20% of the people who describe themselves as "Very Religious" believe that religion is harmful to society?

Very skeptical about this survey. Sample size, who did they ask, what were the questions asked and who interpreted the data?

It was a huffpost survey:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/...94442.html

Yeah I'm skeptical too. What I would say is that I can't believe they found 20% of the 2000 people to be 'very religious'. Odds of that happening are pretty small unless they stood outside a Madrassa or other type of faith school...
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
Nice!
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Too bad I don't live there...
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RE: UK says atheists more moral than theists
Are that many British people still religious though?

I mean, having grown up in the UK, I'd say probably not. If you go up to any random 18-24 year old British person in the street and ask "do you go to church regularly?" I would bet only a vanishingly small amount would actually say "yes". I think the UK is "Christian" in name only these days. In fact I think it sounds weird when I hear British accents having heated debates about religion like Americans do.

It's only really with minority religions in the UK (especially Catholicism, Islam and Judaism) that I've seen any kind of real commitment too. The Protestant Church seems dead.
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