I am literally reading a dispute between ignorance and irrationality. I wonder which will win?
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My View on Belief vs. Knowledge
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February 28, 2015 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm by Ignorant.)
I don't intend to make a "counterargument" because I have had nothing to counter yet. Most people don't talk in arguments. Most people talk back and forth with questions about what they think and more questions to tease out implications. You don't sound harsh, but you maybe sound frustrated.
Hopefully, when I have been asked a question, I have responded with a concrete answer. But if you would like me to back out of the conversation, I am happy to do that as well. Can we ever know that something cannot be false? That is the next logical question isn't it? That is what Descartes set out to discover. The point is that, the answer to this question, and the manner in which you answer it, will be the criteria by which you can "order" all other terms describing the manners by which the intellectual holds/asserts that things are true. (February 28, 2015 at 12:32 pm)whateverist Wrote: I am literally reading a dispute between ignorance and irrationality. I wonder which will win? Why does it have to be a dispute? Why does someone have to win? Is it possible for people to just talk about reality in an attempt to arrive at a mutually better understanding of things? 
Sure. Let me try that.
"I am literally reading a conversation between Ignorance and Irrationality." You're right. Thanks.  (February 28, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Ignorant Wrote: I think that is a pretty good start, actually. It is absolutely true that I am not omnipotent. In other words, cannot be false that I am not omnipotent. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  (February 28, 2015 at 12:40 pm)Ignorant Wrote:(February 28, 2015 at 12:32 pm)whateverist Wrote: I am literally reading a dispute between ignorance and irrationality. I wonder which will win? Pretty sure it was a joke comment. (February 28, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(February 28, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Ignorant Wrote: I think that is a pretty good start, actually. You never know ...  (February 28, 2015 at 9:16 am)Dystopia Wrote: I think if you asked me if there are any unicorns the common answer is not "I don't know" but "No, there aren't". I don't see why I have to treat god differently. It's true that we haven't explored the whole universe to say with 100% certainty that there aren't any unicorns, but since no one has provided proof I assume it's a false hypothesis. If someone thinks unicorns exist they have to provide proof When I say "no there aren't" to the unicorn question - my answer would be predicated on the assumption that they are asking about this planet and not the infinite expanse of the universe which is so vast that amazing combinations are likely. As for the God question ----- I do not believe the existence of God to be impossible but merely improbable. Yes - there are some religious groups who's views on God I do believe I have evidence against but not the concept of God itself. Rather, the existence of God I see not as an impossibility but an improbability - which is why I no longer believe in God. One can argue that there wouldn't necessarily be proof of God if God existed ---- however, the same argument can be made for a ton of other possibilities that are just as likely, many of which are mutually-exclusive from the God possibility. Therefore, a chance of God existing is there ----- but it's extremely slim.   RE: My View on Belief vs. Knowledge
March 4, 2015 at 7:12 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2015 at 7:13 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
Gnosis and pistis are different words for a reason, yeah.
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