A physical argument for an afterlife

[GermanAtheist]

In a multi-world scenario, there would be another you, but not being made of the exact same particles, it would have it's own consciousness.

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Do you know the concept of identical particles in Quantum Mechanics?

[Pizza]

Do you have a point?

[Jenny A]

This reminds me of an old argument. In Star Trek a transporter reduces people to atoms on the ship and reassembles them from atoms on a planet or elsewhere. The question is, were they really transported, or did the transporter kill one person on the ship and create an identical person on the planet. I'd argue the later. It's not immortality, just rebirth of a duplicate. And I'd no more step into the transporter room than allow myself to be killed to create a clone of myself.

[Pizza]

"It's not immortality, just rebirth of a duplicate. And I'd no more step into the transporter room than allow myself to be killed to create a clone of myself."

For similar reasons I don't care much for trans-humanist bull about near-immorality via uploading minds to computers.

[Jenny A]

"It's not immortality, just rebirth of a duplicate. And I'd no more step into the transporter room than allow myself to be killed to create a clone of myself."

For similar reasons I don't care much for trans-humanist bull about near-immorality via uploading minds to computers.

That's pretty much it. It might make my nearest and dearest happier, but it wouldn't do anything for me personally. I'd be gone, gone, gone.

[vorlon13]

This reminds me of an old argument. In Star Trek a transporter reduces people to atoms on the ship and reassembles them from atoms on a planet or elsewhere. The question is, were they really transported, or did the transporter kill one person on the ship and create an identical person on the planet. I'd argue the later. It's not immortality, just rebirth of a duplicate. And I'd no more step into the transporter room than allow myself to be killed to create a clone of myself.

There was an episode of the re-booted Outer Limits (mid 90s as I recall) that explored that idea more fully.

Interstellar travel is done via perfectly duplicating a person elsewhere and destroying the original that 'stayed home'.

It was a pretty chilling thing to contemplate.

[Pizza]

For similar reasons I don't care much for trans-humanist bull about near-immorality via uploading minds to computers.

That's pretty much it. It might make my nearest and dearest happier, but it wouldn't do anything for me personally. I'd be gone, gone, gone.

I'm rambling now but this is kind of why I don't care about reincarnation being true or not. What is being reincarnated? My memories? Whoop-de-do!

[Minimalist]

What do you think about it?

You make many assumptions.

[Alex K]

For similar reasons I don't care much for trans-humanist bull about near-immorality via uploading minds to computers.

That's pretty much it. It might make my nearest and dearest happier, but it wouldn't do anything for me personally. I'd be gone, gone, gone.

The you from yesterday might have suffered the same fate, and you might be going to as well, in a moment. Who says there is now the type of personal continuity we desire , without uploading or duplicating. Is it a testable notion whether this continuity of the self as you desire it even exists?

[downbeatplumb]

This reminds me of an old argument. In Star Trek a transporter reduces people to atoms on the ship and reassembles them from atoms on a planet or elsewhere. The question is, were they really transported, or did the transporter kill one person on the ship and create an identical person on the planet. I'd argue the later. It's not immortality, just rebirth of a duplicate. And I'd no more step into the transporter room than allow myself to be killed to create a clone of myself.

They dealt with this in an episode of the next generation where they ended up with two Rikers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geMGo2P94j4