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Democracy fails...
#21
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 15, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I don't live in a democracy, the EU is not approved by the people and we don't elect representative governments for the EU - We only vote for the EU parliament that has little to no power compared to the European commission that is not elected by us and makes most big decisions.

I pick democracy because it is the only reliable choice right now - I support Churchil's ideas:

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Ah Winston Churchill. The foreign minister came to see him and Churchill was informed of this while he was sat on the toilet. Churchill told his secretary to tell the foreign minister to come back later as he "could only deal with one shit at a time".

They don't make them like that any more.



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#22
RE: Democracy fails...
As soon as the "benevolent" dictator starts telling people to worship him on pain of death or torture, you know he's already corrupt. The only thing a benevolent person would ever demand is equality. Jesus does say treat others as you would have them treated, but he also says to love god more than anyone else. That's not equality.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#23
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Lek Wrote: Democracies and democratic republics, or any form government for that matter, are only as good as the people who comprise them. If the people of nation are immoral, then they will elect immoral people. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than in a corrupt democracy.

Seriously, dude?

And there I was thinking, you're one of the saner ones. I know it's been quite some time since you posted that, but what's your take on a "benevolent dictator"? Who's gonna appoint him and who's gonna boot his ass out of office once he doesn't meet expectations?
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#24
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Lek Wrote: Democracies and democratic republics, or any form government for that matter, are only as good as the people who comprise them. If the people of nation are immoral, then they will elect immoral people. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than in a corrupt democracy.

Do you have a historical example of a benevolent dictator? I find it difficult to believe one ever existed
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#25
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 24, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote: As soon as the "benevolent" dictator starts telling people to worship him on pain of death or torture, you know he's already corrupt. The only thing a benevolent person would ever demand is equality. Jesus does say treat others as you would have them treated, but he also says to love god more than anyone else. That's not equality.

It is a certain and very attractive kind of benevolence to assert equality between his own auagust personage and all his minions. But it is not the only kind, nor a required component for all kinds. Ultimately benevolence is judged by whether one attempted to price commensurate with demonstrable benefit one succeeded in bringing, or if one attempts to exaggerate the benefit one brings is order to be able to exact a higher price for it. Jesus certain exaggerated the nothing he brought into each and everything, and through it attempt to parley the zero price he deserves into an infinite perpetual annuity. So while he was without a doubt less able then even Kim Jung un, the wickedness of his intention certain exceed those of Kim by an very large order of magnitude.
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#26
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Lek Wrote: Democracies and democratic republics, or any form government for that matter, are only as good as the people who comprise them. If the people of nation are immoral, then they will elect immoral people. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than in a corrupt democracy.

As soon as you die you will have eternity with your dictator of choice. Until then I kindly ask that you, and those like you, remove yourself from the political process and let those of us that are passionate about liberty make a go of it. You don't have long to wait and you'll benefit from our attempt.
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#27
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 24, 2015 at 1:18 pm)abaris Wrote:
(March 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Lek Wrote: Democracies and democratic republics, or any form government for that matter, are only as good as the people who comprise them. If the people of nation are immoral, then they will elect immoral people. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than in a corrupt democracy.

Seriously, dude?

And there I was thinking, you're one of the saner ones. I know it's been quite some time since you posted that, but what's your take on a "benevolent dictator"? Who's gonna appoint him and who's gonna boot his ass out of office once he doesn't meet expectations?

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#28
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 24, 2015 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(March 15, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I don't live in a democracy, the EU is not approved by the people and we don't elect representative governments for the EU - We only vote for the EU parliament that has little to no power compared to the European commission that is not elected by us and makes most big decisions.

I pick democracy because it is the only reliable choice right now - I support Churchil's ideas:

http://www.rightposters.com/images/poste..._quote.jpg

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quot...-37246.jpg

Ah Winston Churchill. The foreign minister came to see him and Churchill was informed of this while he was sat on the toilet. Churchill told his secretary to tell the foreign minister to come back later as he "could only deal with one shit at a time".

They don't make them like that any more.

And on the other hand, when Churchill was visiting the White House shortly after Pearl Harbor, FDR entered into Churchill's quarters when the latter was fully nude. FDR Immediately apologized and made to leave, where upon Churchill said, "I have nothing to hide from the President of the United States."

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#29
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 24, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(March 24, 2015 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Ah Winston Churchill. The foreign minister came to see him and Churchill was informed of this while he was sat on the toilet. Churchill told his secretary to tell the foreign minister to come back later as he "could only deal with one shit at a time".

They don't make them like that any more.

And on the other hand, when Churchill was visiting the White House shortly after Pearl Harbor, FDR entered into Churchill's quarters when the latter was fully nude. FDR Immediately apologized and made to leave, where upon Churchill said, "I have nothing to hide from the President of the United States."

He could toadie with the best of em.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#30
RE: Democracy fails...
(March 24, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Cato Wrote:
(March 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Lek Wrote: Democracies and democratic republics, or any form government for that matter, are only as good as the people who comprise them. If the people of nation are immoral, then they will elect immoral people. I'd rather live under a benevolent dictator than in a corrupt democracy.

As soon as you die you will have eternity with your dictator of choice. Until then I kindly ask that you, and those like you, remove yourself from the political process and let those of us that are passionate about liberty make a go of it. You don't have long to wait and you'll benefit from our attempt.

Hear, hear.

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