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Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
#31
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 16, 2015 at 10:41 am)Drich Wrote: We've already done this..

In short one man's God is another's Satan.

The only determining factor is to whom you want to worship, and with Whom you want to spend your portion of eternity.
I pick Robin Williams then. I love that fucking genie!
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#32
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 16, 2015 at 6:53 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:
(March 16, 2015 at 10:41 am)Drich Wrote: We've already done this..

In short one man's God is another's Satan.

The only determining factor is to whom you want to worship, and with Whom you want to spend your portion of eternity.
I pick Robin Williams then. I love that fucking genie!

Oy, ten thousand years with him would give you such a creak in the neck!
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#33
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
Only making Yahweh angrier by worshiping a false prophet, if the Jews are right. Tongue
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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#34
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 17, 2015 at 12:26 am)Drich Wrote:
(March 16, 2015 at 6:53 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: I pick Robin Williams then. I love that fucking genie!

Oy, ten thousand years with him would give you such a creak in the neck!

That's always been part of the rub for me. The idea of spending an eternity with (insert anything) would be hell. Sounds silly to a Christian, I know. I'm not even going to open that can of worms with you Drich Wink But everything worth valuing is only appreciated by some measure of its finite nature. Our relationships with people, vacations, a good meal. I feel like I appreciate things much more when I realize how fortunate I am to have been able to experience it. After its come and gone, it's worth pursuing again only after I have lived without it. If I had to spend an eternity riding the most amazing wave I could possibly dream of, then I would know that there's no wave left to dream about. Its nice to imagine a scenario where we are reunited with loved ones, but sharing an eternity of the exact same experiences leaves nothing to share. It just sounds like a counterintuitive proposition from where I sit.

P.s.
Nice line drop
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#35
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 16, 2015 at 4:09 am)One Above All Wrote: Your title is misleading. For a second there I thought they had shown it. Punctuation matters. Undecided



See, now if they had used a comma incorrectly, we wouldn't know that this place catered to atheists. Big Grin

Also:

John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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#36
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 17, 2015 at 7:09 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:
(March 17, 2015 at 12:26 am)Drich Wrote: Oy, ten thousand years with him would give you such a creak in the neck!

That's always been part of the rub for me. The idea of spending an eternity with (insert anything) would be hell. Sounds silly to a Christian, I know. I'm not even going to open that can of worms with you Drich Wink But everything worth valuing is only appreciated by some measure of its finite nature. Our relationships with people, vacations, a good meal. I feel like I appreciate things much more when I realize how fortunate I am to have been able to experience it. After its come and gone, it's worth pursuing again only after I have lived without it. If I had to spend an eternity riding the most amazing wave I could possibly dream of, then I would know that there's no wave left to dream about. Its nice to imagine a scenario where we are reunited with loved ones, but sharing an eternity of the exact same experiences leaves nothing to share. It just sounds like a counterintuitive proposition from where I sit.

P.s.
Nice line drop

Maybe, that's why the universe/creation is infinite... Infinite life, infinite stuff to explore/experience.

P.s. "I know"
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#37
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 16, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 16, 2015 at 3:21 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But God already knows who is on what side, doesn't he? And why 3 1/2 years? Why not 3, or 4?

God knows, but those who will be in the mix don't till they commit themselves down a given path. This whole life isn't for God to discover who is worthy and who is not. it is for us to know, and for our lives and our hearts to bare witness for or against us.

Again this is proff terrtory but "7" is a numerical sign of God. 3.5 years of good and 3.5 years of bad = 7

I think the number 7 being important is a throwback to the old geocentric universe of the bible, with its five visible planets and the sun and moon. Islam is no better with it's constant references to the seven heavens either.

Just more proof the abrahamic religions are man made and of their time.
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#38
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
Cookie Sign I guess I win.
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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#39
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 17, 2015 at 11:20 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 17, 2015 at 7:09 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: That's always been part of the rub for me. The idea of spending an eternity with (insert anything) would be hell. Sounds silly to a Christian, I know. I'm not even going to open that can of worms with you Drich Wink But everything worth valuing is only appreciated by some measure of its finite nature. Our relationships with people, vacations, a good meal. I feel like I appreciate things much more when I realize how fortunate I am to have been able to experience it. After its come and gone, it's worth pursuing again only after I have lived without it. If I had to spend an eternity riding the most amazing wave I could possibly dream of, then I would know that there's no wave left to dream about. Its nice to imagine a scenario where we are reunited with loved ones, but sharing an eternity of the exact same experiences leaves nothing to share. It just sounds like a counterintuitive proposition from where I sit.

P.s.
Nice line drop

Maybe, that's why the universe/creation is infinite... Infinite life, infinite stuff to explore/experience.

P.s. "I know"
The universe may very well be infinite, but everything that I observe, that can, at any time be a thing or activity to be observed, changes from one state to another, and each state is finite. And some states in which a thing exists are more cherished and valuable than others. Take your sunflower for example. It blooms, and it is beautiful, then it wilts and dies. It will eventually turn to dust, and the matter of which that dust is comprised will continue to exist, but certainly not in the same way that we cherished while in the form of the flower. Infinite as the substance of which the object may be, the essence of the flower, the part that we experienced and abstracted beauty from was finite. I tend to think that our existence is no different and I see no reason to cherish it any less. Quite the contrary, in fact.
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#40
RE: Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan
(March 18, 2015 at 6:24 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote:
(March 17, 2015 at 11:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Maybe, that's why the universe/creation is infinite... Infinite life, infinite stuff to explore/experience.

P.s. "I know"
The universe may very well be infinite, but everything that I observe, that can, at any time be a thing or activity to be observed, changes from one state to another, and each state is finite. And some states in which a thing exists are more cherished and valuable than others. Take your sunflower for example. It blooms, and it is beautiful, then it wilts and dies. It will eventually turn to dust, and the matter of which that dust is comprised will continue to exist, but certainly not in the same way that we cherished while in the form of the flower. Infinite as the substance of which the object may be, the essence of the flower, the part that we experienced and abstracted beauty from was finite. I tend to think that our existence is no different and I see no reason to cherish it any less. Quite the contrary, in fact.

Thanks for not opening a can of worms... Big Grinodgy:

I think the problem is you believe life/existance is like said sunflower. To a degree it is. However Infinate life is to the rest of the world and all the beauty and wonder it contains past present and future (on an infinate scale) if life is compared to just one sunflower.

Sure there is good, bad and mundain mixed in to the world, even so I do not know of anyone who would trade their experience/life time in the world for the existance/life cycle of a sunflower.

Meaning once we move past our 'sunflower stage' (This life) and experience the rest of eternity, no one would want to go back. Look at how humanity is built, look at what we like the things we dream, write and make movies about... It is all about moving forward, about progression about the next level of life. No one wants to return to caves or to devolve back onto slime monkeys. We as a soceity do not want to buy a I phone 4s for what a new 6+ costs. Why? because we have been built with a need or sense of urgency to evolve, to grow to fill this world, this life with as much as we can.

Once we move into the next life we will be able to do just that.

(March 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(March 16, 2015 at 4:09 am)One Above All Wrote: Your title is misleading. For a second there I thought they had shown it. Punctuation matters. Undecided



See, now if they had used a comma incorrectly, we wouldn't know that this place catered to atheists. Big Grin

Also:


I dont get it.
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