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Satanism is not atheism
#11
RE: Satanism is not atheism
I don't know, there's Gnostism: The god of the OT was a fatally flawed god who made earth in a fit a rebelliousness spite and trapped a number spirits here on this planet, thus dooming them to death. We are those doomed spirits and Jesus came to give us the secret knowledge to escape our fate and become the true gods we actually are when we die. The knowledge is a sort of self knowledge rather that a secret handshake. It's bunk too. But it's prettier bunk than the usually Christian and Islamic fare and at least it explains evil.
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#12
RE: Satanism is not atheism
This gets complicated so much by LaVeyan satanism which is not theistic, or something. I really don't care anymore, but apparently these Satanists will tell you that, of course they don't believe in or worship the devil.

So a less confusing phrasing of the OP might be: "atheism is not devil worship"
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#13
RE: Satanism is not atheism
(March 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Alex K Wrote: This gets complicated so much by LaVeyan satanism which is not theistic, or something. I really don't care anymore, but apparently these Satanists will tell you that, of course they don't believe in or worship the devil.

So a less confusing phrasing of the OP might be: "atheism is not devil worship"

I just read a little about LaVeyan satanism. If I am reading correctly, it is true that they also don't believe there is a God. I would also not categorize this type of belief system as real Satanism. They only rebel against ideas whereas Satan, in Christian theology, rebelled against the person of God. It just isn't the same thing. The belief system seems misnamed to me. It would more appropriately be called carnalism. In my view, Satan and the other fallen angels, who know God, are in a class that most humans cannot actually achieve, since God remains hidden from most people.
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#14
RE: Satanism is not atheism
(March 17, 2015 at 11:59 am)Norman Humann Wrote: No shit.

I suspect this thread is in response to that Ninja fellow equating atheims and Satanism.
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#15
RE: Satanism is not atheism
(March 17, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(March 17, 2015 at 11:59 am)Norman Humann Wrote: No shit.

I suspect this thread is in response to that Ninja fellow equating atheims and Satanism.

Poor lad.
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#16
RE: Satanism is not atheism
(March 17, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(March 17, 2015 at 11:59 am)Norman Humann Wrote: No shit.

I suspect this thread is in response to that Ninja fellow equating atheims and Satanism.

I suppose so. I still don't see why make it a pointless thread which doesn't lead to discussion instead of a regular reply.
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#17
RE: Satanism is not atheism
Well, clearly it has led to some sort of discussion.

The point about LaVeyan Satanism being better termed as "carnalism" is interesting. Could you elaborate, dontsaygoodnight?
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#18
RE: Satanism is not atheism
(March 17, 2015 at 12:40 pm)robvalue Wrote: If I was going to worship any of those guys, it would satan though. He's the only one who had the balls to stand up to that nimrod.

Yeah, Lucifer seems like the only one in the whole idiotic story who has his head screwed on right.
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