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Worried there might be an afterlife
#31
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
Razzle, believe me when I say this 'discussion' with ricky will not go anywhere, so don't just try.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#32
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
Cosmology is important to consider with the question of an afterlife. In a theistic cosmology, God created nature. In a nontheistic cosmology, nature simply exists on its own, having no beginning or end. Since this is an atheist forum, I will show where a nontheistic cosmology leads as far as an afterlife is concerned. For this post, I will not consider consciousness in a vacuum, but only with an associated physical system.

As you read this post, you presently have a perception of your existence. This perception is supported by your biological system.  It could just as well be supported by another biological system. In a nontheistic cosmology, there is an infinite resource of space-time through the infinite quantum foam. With such an infinite resource, your present perception of your existence, defined to any finite precision, is certain to have infinite instances of existence through the space-time infinity of the quantum foam. I do not believe that reality is limited to nature, but if I were to limit myself to a nontheistic cosmology, I would see this as the most rational conclusion.
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#33
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
Matey. It comes down to one thing. The soul. As described in the bible.
I think it's bullshit as most here do. But you either believe it or you don't.
The bible is full of woo. But does woo exist without believing in god? Not as far as we know, but don't let that stop you.

believe whatever brings you comfort ...fuck the truth! What's the good of it if you're going to drive yourself crazy.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#34
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
*Necro alarm screams*
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#35
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
(April 7, 2015 at 5:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: I certainly believe in karma or the law of action and reaction.
Just look at the statistics.
The cops are only able to get less than 10% of criminals so how 
would be possible for these people to pay for their crimes other than
reborn again and again and go through different forms of punishment
until all the debts are paid for.
Nothing says that there is ultimate justice, except for your wishful thinking that there is.

(April 7, 2015 at 5:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: Physically speaking every action has got to have an equal and opposite 
reaction.
Physically speaking, not psychically speaking. Your evidence is that an immaterial chain of effects is based on a law about material causes? Don't be stupid. The material isn't the law for the immaterial.

(April 7, 2015 at 5:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: As far as we are stuck inside this universe i don't see how we can evade this law.
Your inability to imagine an alternative isn't any kind of evidence for your supposition.

(April 7, 2015 at 5:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: As i previously said according to me there is no way you will be able to sort out your problems until 
you realize that we screw it up and we got to fix it up.
The power within is a real mighty power able to fix everything up.
Believe in it and you will get out your present situation.  Cool Shades  

Kumbaya. Some things never get fixed. That's just the way things are. That you can't handle that is no evidence for an ever, ever land. Things only get fixed if they get fixed in this lifetime.

(April 6, 2015 at 6:32 am)Little Rik Wrote: So many guessing.
A mountain of guessing with no evidence of whatsoever.
How would you know that life end up with the physical death?  

We have evidence from brain surgeries and brain traumas that the bulk of our conscious experiences can be altered by altering the physical brain. What's more, similar traumas result in similar changes. The changes observed cover a spectrum of mental behaviors which strongly implies that all mental behaviors likely have a physical source in the brain. This is not mere guesswork. This is the accumulation of multiple lines of evidence about the role of the brain in the creation of mental phenomena. It is not completely conclusive, but it isn't solely the work of 'guesses'. It is the conclusion of many independent studies of neurological disorders and human psychophysiology. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
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#36
RE: Worried there might be an afterlife
I think Elvis has left the building. Necro thread down, necro thread down!
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