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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:22 pm
Hey op, what sort of music do you like? The reason I ask is because there is a band called rush, very different sounding too. One thing is that all 3 band members are atheists, and while they aren't preachy about it they have made some amazing songs expressing their pov. Here is a list to check out.
1. sweet miracle.
2. Faithless
3. Bu2b
4. Ghost of a chance.
5. Freewill.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Tell them you are going because you are the adult and they are the children, and you are taking them to their childish game.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: if you are 16, you should be able to make it on your own until you reach college age. It's your call whether you chose to live a charade for handouts from those who, face it, you think really do despise you for who you really are - a fact not changed in the least by your pretending to be something you are not, or see if you have the resource and resolve to make it without their handout, and who knows, maybe you will find out they may in fact accept you for who you are if you make it clear enough who you really are?
What do you mean "make it on your own"? I have three years left before I go to college. Hiding who I am from them doesn't change the fact that they despise me, but it does prevent them from being aggressive towards me and making my life worse. Do you not see the problem? You didn't answer what were your parents like when you were a teenager and what you believed. What do you suggest I or DJ do? Move out?
Finding out if they accept me? I have heard say hateful things that lead me to believe they wouldn't. It's not worth the risk.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: Tell them you are going because you are the adult and they are the children, and you are taking them to their childish game.
I have some respect left for my parents, arguing with them like that would be nonsensical, it would achieve nothing. I can't take your advice seriously when you think coming out to your religious parents is a good idea when your gay, thats such a bad idea
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:28 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: if you are 16, you should be able to make it on your own until you reach college age. It's your call whether you chose to live a charade for handouts from those who, face it, you think really do despise you for who you really are - a fact not changed in the least by your pretending to be something you are not, or see if you have the resource and resolve to make it without their handout, and who knows, maybe you will find out they may in fact accept you for who you are if you make it clear enough who you really are?
What do you mean "make it on your own"? I have three years left before I go to college. Hiding who I am from them doesn't change the fact that they despise me, but it does prevent them from being aggressive towards me and making my life worse. Do you not see the problem? You didn't answer what were your parents like when you were a teenager and what you believed. What do you suggest I or DJ do? Move out?
Finding out if they accept me? I have heard say hateful things that lead me to believe they wouldn't. It's not worth the risk.
It's sick to think that a parent would turn on their child because of that filthy cult.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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(April 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm)coolfunkDJ Wrote: I have some respect left for my parents, arguing with them like that would be nonsensical, it would achieve nothing. I can't take your advice seriously when you think coming out to your religious parents is a good idea when your gay, thats such a bad idea
I literally just saw this yesterday and was thinking about it now.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:31 pm
It's up to you how you do it and to what extent, but 16 is that ripe age where you have to start asserting your own autonomy. You don't have to be direct with it, but start letting them know that you are your own person with your own mind and beliefs. If you sit back and simply let your parents plan your life for you, things are going to eventually get very unpleasant.
You don't have to do anything drastic, mind you, and you can assert yourself without undermining your parents authority. Staying silent about the whole thing, however, is just going perpetuate in their mind the idea that you are a person to shape and mold as they please.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm)coolfunkDJ Wrote: I have some respect left for my parents, arguing with them like that would be nonsensical, it would achieve nothing. I can't take your advice seriously when you think coming out to your religious parents is a good idea when your gay, thats such a bad idea
I literally just saw this yesterday and was thinking about it now.
I know someone who was going through this and they sent me this video, apparently the song is helping him go through the problem.
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Finding out if they accept me? I have heard say hateful things that lead me to believe they wouldn't. It's not worth the risk.
But what is their conditional acceptance worth? How much does their acceptance mean to you if you know they would throw it all away based on some silly belief?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Parents forcing a christian convention on me - how to keep sane?
April 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: What do you mean "make it on your own"? I have three years left before I go to college. Hiding who I am from them doesn't change the fact that they despise me, but it does prevent them from being aggressive towards me and making my life worse. Do you not see the problem? You didn't answer what were your parents like when you were a teenager and what you believed. What do you suggest I or DJ do? Move out?
Finding out if they accept me? I have heard say hateful things that lead me to believe they wouldn't. It's not worth the risk.
It's sick to think that a parent would turn on their child because of that filthy cult.
Sick, but unfortunatly very true  , i still don't even understand why religion still exists! Science has proved that the flying spaghetti monster is as believable as any other religion
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