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How Many People Would Have To Die?
#21
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
(April 6, 2015 at 12:52 pm)professor Wrote: You guys are missing one thing.
The thing seen is a vision.
Visions can be totally symbolic or a view of an event as seen on earth.

One time, I had an open vision where I saw a metal building on fire.  My wife was with me and didn't see any flames.
I walked down to where it was and there was nothing burned.  It was symbolic.
The book of Revelation has a huge amount of symbolism.
Just make sure your aren't down there in that Valley outside Jerusalem where the real thing will unfold.
What happens to the Muslims who march on Israel (upcoming)  will be a portent of what will happen in the valley of Megiddo
(Armageddon).
 God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked.
He would that all come to repentance, the two groups mentioned above will have refused over and over- until time runs out for them.

You forgot something Professor. Atheists interpret the bible more literally than christian fundamentalists do.
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#22
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
We never got our secret decoder rings Lek.  I take it you don't think that there will be any rivers of blood?  I'm in a similar position myself...I don't think there will be any apocalypse.

-I bet we both concluded these dissimilar things using the same method.   
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#23
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
I'm saddened by the possibility of not being able to red water raft on all that blood.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#24
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
I make no attempt to interpret the bible, I just read what it says. If this is supposed to be God trying to communicate with me, it really should be good enough for me to understand it without someone else telling me what it "really means".
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#25
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
(April 16, 2015 at 1:53 pm)robvalue Wrote: I make no attempt to interpret the bible, I just read what it says. If this is supposed to be God trying to communicate with me, it really should be good enough for me to understand it without someone else telling me what it "really means".

Maybe that's where your problem is. Any literature must be interpreted within it's context, especially ancient writings from other cultures. The book of Revelation was purposely written in symbolic language. If you do a straight reading, you're not going to understand the message.
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#26
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
I wouldn't presume to correct God on his choice of words, or to think he was so bad a co-author that his words require context. If he wants me to interpret them differently, that's up to him to tell me.

Or he could stop screwing around and communicate me with directly.

Why doesn't this cool stuff happen anymore? I want to see people being chopped to pieces by angels and God throwing fireballs everywhere. God damnit, this is boring!
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#27
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
(April 17, 2015 at 11:51 am)robvalue Wrote: I wouldn't presume to correct God on his choice of words, or to think he was so bad a co-author that his words require context. If he wants me to interpret them differently, that's up to him to tell me.

Or he could stop screwing around and communicate me with directly.

He left the scriptures and his church to communicate his message. Obviously, that's the way he wants it to be done. If I sit around waiting for him to speak to me verbally, I'll probably never get the message.
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#28
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
Ah well. He really should have done better. Because it looks exactly like the kind of nonsense you would expect from ignorant people at that time trying to understand the world around them and stealing from other mythologies.

He's tried his hardest to make it look really stupid to me. So I can only guess the test is to see if I fall for it. I wonder what I win Thinking Maybe a signed copy?
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#29
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
(April 17, 2015 at 11:59 am)Lek Wrote: He left the scriptures and his church to communicate his message.  Obviously, that's the way he wants it to be done.  

Why should a perfect communicator create such an imperfect testament?

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#30
RE: How Many People Would Have To Die?
(April 6, 2015 at 10:23 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I'd think if anyone has a press capable of total exsanguination, it would be God.

It's not like he would be stuck with the Chinese knockoff brand at WalMart . . . .

sick sick sick barf city sick. smelling salts won't help. slap me
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

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