Belief in The Devil in 2015

[Ravenshire]

So his UFO demons only rail against Christ...

(snip... emphasis is mine)

What the fuck?!? Did you really just say UFO demons?!?

You're right prof, you have no credibility at all.

[Neo-Scholastic]

I don't know professor. I see nothing wrong with treating Satan as the personification of all evil. But to be clear that evil includes the collective activity of evil spirits, demons, and devils kinda like how Legion is many acting as one.

[Iroscato]

Alright, I will step up (why not I have no credibility here anyway).

You have a few different sources of information on Satan, primarily the bible, his followers and those who have left Satanism.

His initially stupidity was he was going to overtake God and set himself up as the highest authority.

 This did not go too well for him. He had never seen the Justice side of God and made the grandest blunder, from which there was no return.

Lucifer sucked-in a third of the angels to follow him, so there is a hierarchy of evil -
Like an army that is ruled by force from those stronger above them.
 Each one hating the one above and wanting to be him, but can't.

His expulsion from Heaven apparently created his immense hatred for Man, who would ultimately be over him and all other angels.
He is called the father of lies because he lied to the first people and has been lying to us ever since.

His day to day operation is like an army continually at war with us, with generals (principalities and powers in high places), lower angels, and finally, demons of varying degrees of ability.
Instigating conflicts, especially wars, abortion, murders, terrorism by his current pet dogs (it formerly was the Vatican, but that venue was overtaken).
 Any thing that results in the killing off of those made in God's image is his goal.

His greatest delight is to subvert those with the most light- Christians.
So his UFO demons only rail against Christ and those who follow Him.
 All other religions are left alone.

Satan is getting more bold these days as he knows the last sands are running out for him, thus, we see, in Hollywood, and especially on the recent super bowls, overt Satanic symbolism by those who believed his lies ( Madonna and those like her comes to mind) that they will rule and reign with him later.
  He gives them goodies for as long as they work for him.
  He hates these as much as the rest of us, but like good goats- they are useful for a season and he knows they are going to end up with him in the end anyway.

Three main questions I gleaned from that.

1) Why do you think a full 1/3 of the angels who followed God for who knows how long threw their lot in with Satan? What do you think their motives were, if they realise God is omnipotent as you guys are fond of saying?
2) What do you mean by 'demon UFO's', would you care to elaborate further?
3) What evidence do you have of overt satanic symbolism becoming more prevalent in celebrities and sporting events? Do you think celebrities are communicating directly with the Devil or are simply passively corrupted by him?

All I ask is that you elaborate and clarify, and it would be appreciated greatly if you didn't simply ignore those three main points.

[Bad Wolf]

Wow, this is like talking to two schizophrenics!
I want to ask you guys some questions:

Are there different kinds of the devils minions? Like spirits, ghosts, poltergiests, zombies, demons, vampires, mummies, witches?
Do these devil minions have different power levels and abilities? How would you deal with a level 7 demon?
How do you know that these are the devils minions instead of you just being mistaken?
How do you fight them off?
If the devil is more of a legion concept, and presumable there are many of his evil agents at work, why haven't we captured any footage of them?

[Lucanus]

If the devil is more of a legion concept, and presumable there are many of his evil agents at work, why haven't we captured any footage of them?

Because they operate on a supernatural level, and they don't interact in any way with our physical reality... Ooooops

I meant, obviously everyone in power is corrupted by demonic powers so every footage or pictures of them are censored!!

[professor]

Really Iro, what you are requesting is a book.
Lucifer was the music minister in Heaven, at one time, it was just like today, "There are 2 roads you can go by- it's not too late to change the road you're on".
Perhaps the other angels who followed the wrong piper actually believed he would be successful.
The people here have a different view of God's power than I do. I always hear about His omnipotentness,
as if God has no rules or boundaries and can change Satan into something else- or ourselves for that matter.
It does not work that way.

Evidence for more celeb. activity being made public-
Have you NOT watched the half time part of the last 2 or 3 (I think it is 3 at this point) "performances"?
It is all there in your face. The illuminati triangle hand signs, the poses from ancient occult "gods", it goes on and on.
Do I think the clebs know what they are doing? ABSOLUTELY. It is subliminal prophecy.
These fools think Lucifer will win in the end and they are showing their allegiance to him.
Wasn't it Mick Jagger who quipped, "Because he pays well" when asked why he serves satan?
Tongue in cheek or not- it is true. He does pay well. For a while.

UfOs- are not from some other world.
They are from another dimension- the spiritual realm.
Tons of people, including Christians have seen their performances.
People have rebuffed these entities, and their close encounters, in the Name of Jesus and they have disappeared.
I call them "Demons" but they may be fallen angels instead.

Bad wolf, there are the kinds of evil spirits I listed in my first reply, they inhabit the witches, warlocks, vampires and the like, they communicate with mediums (remote viewers) and are the spirits which inhabited a dead person, which expresses itself as a dead human.

All of the evil realm have only one enemy- Jesus Christ,and any Christian in a living relationship with Him.
That Name has repelled them.

[Iroscato]

Really Iro, what you are requesting is a book.
Lucifer was the music minister in Heaven, at one time, it was just like today, "There are 2 roads you can go by- it's not too late to change the road you're on".
Perhaps the other angels who followed the wrong piper actually believed he would be successful.
The people here have a different view of God's power than I do. I always hear about His omnipotentness,
as if God has no rules or boundaries and can change Satan into something else- or ourselves for that matter.
It does not work that way.

Evidence for more celeb. activity being made public-
Have you NOT watched the half time part of the last 2 or 3 (I think it is 3 at this point) "performances"?
It is all there in your face. The illuminati triangle hand signs, the poses from ancient occult "gods", it goes on and on.
Do I think the clebs know what they are doing? ABSOLUTELY. It is subliminal prophecy.
These fools think Lucifer will win in the end and they are showing their allegiance to him.
Wasn't it Mick Jagger who quipped, "Because he pays well" when asked why he serves satan?
Tongue in cheek or not- it is true. He does pay well. For a while.

UfOs- are not from some other world.
They are from another dimension- the spiritual realm.
Tons of people, including Christians have seen their performances.
People have rebuffed these entities, and their close encounters, in the Name of Jesus and they have disappeared.
I call them "Demons" but they may be fallen angels instead.

Bad wolf, there are the kinds of evil spirits I listed in my first reply, they inhabit the witches, warlocks, vampires and the like, they communicate with mediums (remote viewers) and are the spirits which inhabited a dead person, which expresses itself as a dead human.

All of the evil realm have only one enemy- Jesus Christ,and any Christian in a living relationship with Him.
That Name has repelled them.

Thank you for replying.
I have not seen the superbowl in my life before, mainly as I'm from the UK, and not into sports at the best of times.
What evidence do you have that UFO demons have been repelled by christians invoking Jesus' name?
Are you on medication?

[Norman Humann]

UfOs- are not from some other world.
 They are from another dimension- the spiritual realm.
Tons of people, including Christians have seen their performances.
People have rebuffed these entities, and their close encounters, in the Name of Jesus and they have disappeared.
I call them "Demons" but they may be fallen angels instead.

Prof... I'm sorry to chime in all nitpicky like this... but I'd just like to bring up what the abbreviation "UFO" actually stands for -- Unidentified Flying Object. It does not necessarily imply some sort of entity or intelligence... it just means that it is an object that is airborne and unidentified.

[Lucanus]

Iro, I suggest you take a look at this thread before engaging in further conversation with the prof. http://atheistforums.org/thread-28418.html

There's a reason why he himself admits to having no credibility... He's a bit nuts, but he's a good guy after all

PS Norms you're the best

[Ravenshire]

UfOs- are not from some other world.
They are from another dimension- the spiritual realm.
Tons of people, including Christians have seen their performances.
People have rebuffed these entities, and their close encounters, in the Name of Jesus and they have disappeared.
I call them "Demons" but they may be fallen angels instead.

Evidence for these claims?

Real evidence, mind you. The testable, verifiable kind.

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Iro, I suggest you take a look at this thread before engaging in further conversation with the prof. http://atheistforums.org/thread-28418.html

There's a reason why he himself admits to having no credibility... He's a bit nuts, but he's a good guy after all

PS Norms you're the best

A bit? Isn't that like saying water is a bit wet?