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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Okay prof, if there are indeed witches, demons, vampires and warlocks running around, why haven't we got any evidence of them. No photographs, no video, no bodies to dissect. Why is this?
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 3:34 pm
(April 10, 2015 at 2:36 pm)professor Wrote: UfOs- are not from some other world.
They are from another dimension- the spiritual realm.
Tons of people, including Christians have seen their performances.
People have rebuffed these entities, and their close encounters, in the Name of Jesus and they have disappeared.
I call them "Demons" but they may be fallen angels instead.
I thought demon = fallen angel, so now you confused me. 
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 3:39 pm
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(April 10, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Lucanus Wrote: Iro, I suggest you take a look at this thread before engaging in further conversation with the prof. http://atheistforums.org/thread-28418.html
There's a reason why he himself admits to having no credibility... He's a bit nuts, but he's a good guy after all 
PS Norms you're the best
Heh, yeah ok he's a laugh.
Even so, holy shit 
Still, this has given me a somewhat interesting view into the mind of the modern day theist on this particular subject. Any others care to throw their two cents in? As for joining a dedicated theist board...I'll pass for now.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 3:39 pm
@OP at least those people are following the good guy in the bible.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 3:40 pm
professor.
You've claimed that various pop icons have made demonic hand signs during performances. I'm unfamiliar with what these hand signs are. Could you link us to a photograph of one or more?
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 4:06 pm
I wish I could find the video with all the world leaders giving the devil hand sign (thumb out, pointing finger and little finger out- making a devil's head horns) which included Obamas, Bushes, Clintons, the queen of England, on and on.
But here is a vid that covers some symbolism-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWdBl9gpFkY
Another, out of a quick search for "Superbowl symbolism". There are lots of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMyDsaBmiYI
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 4:17 pm
(April 10, 2015 at 4:06 pm)professor Wrote: I wish I could find the video with all the world leaders giving the devil hand sign (thumb out, pointing finger and little finger out- making a devil's head horns) which included Obamas, Bushes, Clintons, the queen of England, on and on.
But here is a vid that covers some symbolism-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWdBl9gpFkY
Another, out of a quick search for "Superbowl symbolism". There are lots of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMyDsaBmiYI
god isn't real ergo satan isn't real.
Symbolism really.... just really... everyone uses symbols for something even you do and you haven't noticed it.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm
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I think without Satan and his army, it would be a lot easier to attain to virtue and righteousness, but it would not be a guarantee, but it would be harder to attain the higher ranks.
The difficulty in people being misguided and falsehood obeyed, is due spiritual nature of the attacks on the soul.
But God allowed this so that we seek refuge in him through his name, build strength to repel his attacks, and fight back with the sword of God and sword of honor, and build a relationship with God not possible without this hard trial and battle between good and evil.
I think one of the obvious manifestation to me of Satan is how despite verses in Quran of clear guidance, people ignore them and are oblivious to them, and go against them, and are blind to them. They cannot recite the true recitation or accept the verses in their place, because there is something that wants them to go against and not see.
The blindness to the spiritual kingdom is also of Satan. Despite our connection, our inheriting our evil and good action in the unseen, and the nature of blessings, people are oblivious to the Lord of the worlds and his constant lordship on people and taking them into account.
I think the trial would be too easy for humans were it not for Satanic forces, because, we been created on the best nature, and we would not be able to bring the potential of that best nature without him.
I feel Satan is an open enemy, and if you realize every time you are try to get guided, and try to be good, yet there is something trying to bring our rank down, cause us to be worse than we are...and so why would ourselves do this to ourselves? Why would we want ourselves to be more evil and why would our mind which is devoted for our well being whisper to us all sorts of things that make us uneasy, go against our peace, and cause us disgrace.
Satan is an open enemy, he and his forces, are to be fought with full force.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 4:20 pm
And as to my question, Prof?
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 4:24 pm
This thread... I mean... is this...?
Wow.
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