Wake up jesus didn't die for your sins

[dyresand]

Yeah. We also had to fight hard to end some of the biblical laws, like slavery.

Mhm and people still think its a good religion when its not. If a person lets say someone who is extremely right winged and is also a deeply disturbed and racist person at heart.....
and he challenges  equal rights and everything else and the bill that ended slavery there you have it a christian nation and there goes society....

[KevinM1]

Someone wake me up when any of this can be relevant to the idea that Mr. Christ is/was god.

I must challenge the claim of irrelevance here. (Above post is also to be read.)


 The Jewish OT narrative was sin → exile → forgiveness → restoration. Although the exile had geographically ended, the C1 Israel consensus was that promised arrival of God's kingdom hadn't happened, what with the Romans running the show. Therefore they hadn't been forgiven. Israel was waiting for God to sort things out.

When the whole Jesus thing was over, the realisation dawned that God had acted, decisively, to enact his Kingdom, to return as King to Israel, to bring redemption from sin, and to destroy the power of sin and death. And he had done it in the person of Jesus. Jesus had done what God and God alone had said he would do.

So to say that Jesus had died claiming it would bring redemption is directly linked to a role reserved to God. And if the resurrection happened, death would have been beaten, and that claim would have been vindicated.


And, to draw a further conclusion, without a clear belief in Jesus' resurrection, the disciples would have had nothing to say.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=albGoar3P0I

You misunderstand me.  Of course the holy books will say that Christ was divine and fulfilled vague prophecies.  They're written to sell a religion, which automatically makes them biased and not worth considering.  And the lineage of Jesus - if he did exist - doesn't imply his divinity.

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Prove it.

Many of the laws you follow are based off the teachings of Christ.

Just leaving this here.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

[TheoneandonlytrueGod]

The whole dying for your sins things was added to the bible 16,000 years after jesus supposedly died.
What he did die for is this.
1. challenged the status quo  
2. he made people in power angry (my addition)
3. He was a heretic 
All in all OT is still in the court so you better pick that ball up and drop the NT.

Couldn't possibly be 16,000 years ago - the world isn't over 6,000 years old, I  know because a biblical scholar told me he  figured out sometime ago the world was ~4,000 years old.
Robert

[vorlon13]

Jesus also didn't have to die for your sins.

The instant God ejaculated into the Virgin Mary, and in His heart, was aware and willing to appease Himself via the death of Himself/ His Son, the transaction WAS FINISHED.

Salvation/redemption was complete, finalized, and irrevocable at THAT instant.


How's THAT for afterglow ?!?!?!?!?!?!

[dyresand]

The whole dying for your sins things was added to the bible 16,000 years after jesus supposedly died.
What he did die for is this.
1. challenged the status quo  
2. he made people in power angry (my addition)
3. He was a heretic 
All in all OT is still in the court so you better pick that ball up and drop the NT.

Couldn't possibly be 16,000 years ago - the world isn't over 6,000 years old, I  know because a biblical scholar told me he  figured out sometime ago the world was ~4,000 years old.
Robert

Error on my part it should have been written like 1600 years ignore that , i have. 
Anyways do not take what biblical scholars say to you at heart.... they no nothing of reality.