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Atheism / Satanism
#11
RE: Atheism / Satanism
Atheists aren't all ethical egoists and don't used Satan as a symbol. Why is this hard to understand. I don't mean to sound rude but come on. This isn't rocket science here.
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#12
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)Pizza Wrote: This isn't rocket science here.

It seems to be for you, your variance of understanding.  
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#13
RE: Atheism / Satanism
All ford model cars are cars.

Not all cars are ford model cars.

Trying to say they are the same thing is either midguided or dishonest. Trying to brush away their differences and equate them is misguided or dishonest.
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#14
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:38 am)Kitan Wrote:
(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)Pizza Wrote: This isn't rocket science here.

It seems to be for you, your variance of understanding.  
What are you talking about?
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#15
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Hello CI, welcome Smile

Atheism is simply the rejection of the claim that one or more gods exist. That's it, nothing more. Anything else you try to say about a particular atheist is entirely unfounded.

http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!what-is-atheism/c57k

LeVeyan Satanism is a whole religion, which happens to not involve god worship so its members are likely to be atheist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism


So these Satanists are (almost certainly) atheists, but atheists are not in general Satanists. It's like all members of a particular woman's group are women, but not all women are members of that group nor share its ideas.

So how does it differ from atheism, exactly? It seems to me like you're trying to say that Satanism is different because it's a group or cult, which doesn't really make it much different from atheism IMO.
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#16
RE: Atheism / Satanism
Ah. So you're completely ignoring what I'm saying and just clinging to your preconceptions.

Well, have fun with that. I've explained it very clearly.
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#17
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)robvalue Wrote: Everything in Satanism, except the atheist part, sets them apart.

Atheism is not a philosophy, so it has no tenants or ideas. It's a nothing.

There is no general statement you can say about atheists, other than they are atheists. Not so for Satanists, they are making clear their philosophy.

Satanism is the philosophy of the lack of belief in gods. Same as atheism.
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#18
RE: Atheism / Satanism
Ignoring everything I've said, again. Did you look at the links I posted?

This is what is called willful ignorance and blatant dishonesty. One more post like that and I'm going to ignore you.
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#19
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:45 am)CuriousInquirer Wrote:
(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)robvalue Wrote: Everything in Satanism, except the atheist part, sets them apart.

Atheism is not a philosophy, so it has no tenants or ideas. It's a nothing.

There is no general statement you can say about atheists, other than they are atheists. Not so for Satanists, they are making clear their philosophy.

Satanism is the philosophy of the lack of belief in gods. Same as atheism.

I guess Christianity and Islam are the same thing because they share a belief in a monotheistic God.
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#20
RE: Atheism / Satanism
(April 15, 2015 at 3:43 am)robvalue Wrote: Ah. So you're completely ignoring what I'm saying and just clinging to your preconceptions.

Well, have fun with that. I've explained it very clearly.

I don't think so, I just don't feel like I've received a clear answer, other than "they're a group" - which, like I said, isn't really a good answer.
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