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Christians...
#11
RE: Christians...
Yeah Min, it works both ways doesn't it.
Your guys make stuff up and we make stuff up.
The OP asked a reasonable question- none of us were there.
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#12
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We use facts.  You use fairy tales.

Bit of a difference.
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#13
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(April 21, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:There had to be a huge genetic pool within A&E, after all, four different "Races" came out of them.
And there you see apologetics in action.  When you have no answer...make shit up.
IANAB, but there can't be a "genetic pool" in two diploid persons. A&E would have to have functioned radically different from subsequent generations.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#14
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(April 21, 2015 at 4:35 pm)Alex K Wrote: IANAB, but there can't be a "genetic pool" in two diploid persons. A&E would have to have functioned radically different from subsequent generations.

IANAB either but a gene pool is the total genetic information in the gametes of all the individuals in a population, so if the total population equals two there is a genetic pool still

The actual problem with that premise is that two individuals, so 92 chromosomes total (but remember that only 23 go into a gamete in each individual) could not possibly contain the amount of genetic information needed to produce the alleged 4 races (uunscientific term btw) as in the entirety of the very diverse human species. Cos that's just bull
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#15
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(April 21, 2015 at 2:06 pm)professor Wrote: There had to be a huge genetic pool within A&E, after all, four different "Races" came out of them.
Of course, their sons, daughters, cousins intermarried.

As time went by, the races obviously selected within themselves who to marry (as they mostly do today).
This selection weakened available genetic diversity, and the further compressing of the pool continued by people groups' language and congregating in areas removed from broader interaction.
To the point where inbreeding is a danger to people now-
As witnessed by the Muslim's acceptance to marrying first cousins and lowering Muslim aggregate IQs.

Much of your contribution is lunatic fringe in a harmless entertaining way; however, after reading this I wonder if you aren't remedying a lice problem by frequently deploying your wife's over-sized fly swatter.
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#16
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(April 21, 2015 at 1:23 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(April 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Dystopia Wrote: If we assume the story of creation is literally true (let's assume that for a second so don't disagree) and believe Adam and Eve procreated and had their sons Caim and Abel - And then were expelled from paradise - So... Since there is no other human being to procreate with, that means we all inevitably descend from incest. 

My question is - Why is incest a sin if we all come from incest? Shock

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN Incest the true original sin of the bible

"Incest"™: The game for the whole family.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#17
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Quote:so if the total population equals two there is a genetic pool still

Um, what gene "pool."  The story says that "adam" was made from mud and eve was fashioned from his rib...in one version.  Nope.  To hear these lunatics tell it there was nothing before them.

You can't give them any kind of break on their bullshit stories.
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#18
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(April 21, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Um, what gene "pool."  The story says that "adam" was made from mud and eve was fashioned from his rib...in one version.  Nope.  To hear these lunatics tell it there was nothing before them.

You can't give them any kind of break on their bullshit stories.

Oh, right. I forgot I wasn't dealing with sane people, mea culpa

Yeah, mud and mud-ribs don't really have a gene pool, or genes, or sense
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#19
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(April 21, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(April 21, 2015 at 1:23 pm)dyresand Wrote: DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN Incest the true original sin of the bible

"Incest"™: The game for the whole family.
And is accepted in some states in America really really really republican states... DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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(April 21, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:
(April 21, 2015 at 4:35 pm)Alex K Wrote: IANAB, but there can't be a "genetic pool" in two diploid persons. A&E would have to have functioned radically different from subsequent generations.

IANAB either but a gene pool is the total genetic information in the gametes of all the individuals in a population, so if the total population equals two there is a genetic pool still

The actual problem with that premise is that two individuals, so 92 chromosomes total (but remember that only 23 go into a gamete in each individual) could not possibly contain the amount of genetic information needed to produce the alleged 4 races (uunscientific term btw) as in the entirety of the very diverse human species. Cos that's just bull

That was my point. Fine, it is a gene pool, but an almost trivial one.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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